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TOPIC: Retaliation
#254575
hedda

Retaliation 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Trump wasting no time.

88 FBI agents have been escorted out of the Washington office. And of curse the DEI firings.

They all worked on Trump cases. 22 DOJ employees have been fired.
The lines between the Separation of Powers is rapidly diminishing.

Still, there's an attractive new face in the White House press room so there's that.

(some might have thought the last one-Karine Jean-Pierre was attractive but I guess it's personal taste.)

Fun fact: after being appointed Chancellor in 1933 it took Adolf Hitler only 53 days to dismantle and rid Germany of troublesome judges and government employees.

Hannah Arendt's ( who was brought up in Germany under Hitler) brilliant book The Origins of Totalitarianism superbly describes how Germany slipped into fascism by small incremental steps that seemed innocuous at times.

Does history repeat? Trump has said many times at rallies that he would like to dismantle the US Constitution so he could run a third time or even be permanent leader. The MAGA Mob cheered.

Underneath Trump always tells you who he really is but it's sort of obscured by a myriad of nonsense or blatant lies.

Godwin's Law: The idea that comparing an argument to Hitler or Nazi Germany results in losing the argument is based on Godwin's law and the logical fallacy called reductio ad Hitlerum.

Godwin's Law creator attorney Mike Godwin: "all bets are off under Trump."

Madeline Albright: Fascism 'goes unnoticed until it's too late': Albright sounds dire warning on Trump
 
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#254582
Jo

Re:Retaliation 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
I suspect that a lot of Trump's avid followers can't distinguish between entertainment value and what Trump really stands for. Are they too dim and gullible? Or actually highly intelligent but don't care if democracy suffers? And what of the experienced Republican politicians backing Trump, who must have the nous to be able to see through him?
 
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#254601
Hedda

Re:Retaliation 2 Weeks, 2 Days ago  
Jo wrote:
I suspect that a lot of Trump's avid followers can't distinguish between entertainment value and what Trump really stands for. Are they too dim and gullible? Or actually highly intelligent but don't care if democracy suffers? And what of the experienced Republican politicians backing Trump, who must have the nous to be able to see through him?

I forced myself to sit thru some of his early rallies for 2016 election..and those rallies were conducted on a regular basis during his presidency.. and they generally were about 90 minutes long

He's a very peculiar speaker who says what he wants to do, most of which never happened and would run off at a tangent in between the subject matter.

I think it's a way of dazzling the audience and covering the truths he told with a myriad on fanciful nonsense..in way that so many though he the beginnings of dementia.

But he never went off message with his Mexican Border Wall they would pay for. It was highlight of all his speeches and got rousing cheers.

And then just forgotten the day he was elected. There are numerous plans of course that never got spoken about again.

This is real cult like behavior..millions of adoring fans who the next day cheered the opposite to what he said the day before.

Seems pointless asking dedicated MAGA fans anything. Tricky questions and they usually slide off into some nonsense about Biden being dead and actor taking his place.
 
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#254612
hedda

Re:Retaliation 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Jo wrote:
I suspect that a lot of Trump's avid followers can't distinguish between entertainment value and what Trump really stands for. Are they too dim and gullible? Or actually highly intelligent but don't care if democracy suffers? And what of the experienced Republican politicians backing Trump, who must have the nous to be able to see through him?

The other peculiar aspect is I cannot recall any politician (or should that b "showman") who has repeatedly lied to his audience - often who will actually be victims of those lies such as the upcoming prices hikes on everything despite his promise to bring them down- that actually lovingly support him and find 100 ways around those lies.

I repeatedly use the border wall with Mexico (Which Mexico would pay for) and his "wonderful new health care system) as extraordinary examples of basic lies told on a daily basis that just vanished into the vapor upon election.

It's like a Tsunami of lies that overwhelms his critics and certainly the now tragic, but once the worlds best, media

keir Starmer blatantly lied when he promised to implement the doctrine created under Jeremy Corbyn , first to win the Labour leadership and then he took it to the electorate.

Immediately dropped after winning which is why his poll numbers are so dismal.

There are sadly plenty in & out of Labour who support that even though he's worse than the last Tories but in the US, in seems to number in the millions with Trumpy.
 
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