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#256240
Green Man

Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
The government and backbenchers are scared to upset the Muslim vote, grooming gangs, Islamists etc - The fact that Muslims themselves are not calling out dangerous and disturbing behaviour shows their religion before the country.

You hear about ex-Muslims calling out their brothers but it's not many, we hear about Modest Muslims but they are not vocal. Religions do not mix especially if they do not separate church and state.

How are we ever expected to live alongside each other peacefully with this mentality?

Our government knows more than the dangers we are in with this mindset, they will be given the information we will never know. I still think Jess Phillips by the student vote but it was close.

Until decent Muslims call out this behaviour and realise it's not racist and Islamophobic, we are in big trouble, it is the only way decent people can respectfully live together in society. There is no such thing as a religion of peace this includes Christians and Catholics, I grew up during the Troubles and ran home from a Saturday job with bullets and flying overhead.

If Sir David was a Labour MP I am sure there would be an inquiry.


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy05k249ywwo
 
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Rich

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Isn't it striking to see the moral cowardice of this government regards this issue against the big boy bravado Starmer is prepared to grandstand his bravery over Ukraine.

If they can't even do the right thing after the horrific unprovoked murder of one of their own, an MP, then there is no hope for anyone else.
 
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#256244
Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
David's daughter very articulate.
 
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#256246
Downing Street Cat

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Green Man wrote:
The government and backbenchers are scared to upset the Muslim vote, grooming gangs, Islamists etc - The fact that Muslims themselves are not calling out dangerous and disturbing behaviour shows their religion before the country.

You hear about ex-Muslims calling out their brothers but it's not many, we hear about Modest Muslims but they are not vocal. Religions do not mix especially if they do not separate church and state.

How are we ever expected to live alongside each other peacefully with this mentality?

Our government knows more than the dangers we are in with this mindset, they will be given the information we will never know. I still think Jess Phillips by the student vote but it was close.

Until decent Muslims call out this behaviour and realise it's not racist and Islamophobic, we are in big trouble, it is the only way decent people can respectfully live together in society. There is no such thing as a religion of peace this includes Christians and Catholics, I grew up during the Troubles and ran home from a Saturday job with bullets and flying overhead.

If Sir David was a Labour MP I am sure there would be an inquiry.


www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy05k249ywwo


If this is true, why are they backing Zionists ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Palestine? How does any of this follow?
 
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#256248
Green Man

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Rich wrote:
Isn't it striking to see the moral cowardice of this government regards this issue against the big boy bravado Starmer is prepared to grandstand his bravery over Ukraine.

If they can't even do the right thing after the horrific unprovoked murder of one of their own, an MP, then there is no hope for anyone else.


I agree Rich, I still think Jess Phillips won by the student vote in Brum, I was in the Midlands on the run-up to the election. There were tons of posters and billboards of nothing but Asian candidates, there is nothing wrong with it but you can tell where some communities are heading if they haven't already. No wonder Labour and Tories are crapping it, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

My sister-in-law was in a part that was mostly Asian, she got 3 people knocking out of the blue asking if she was selling because people wanted to be closer to their families. She did move eventually after a brick was thrown in her window and human shit thrown in her back garden. There was no point going to the police but just selling up discreetly. She still got a nice price for the house.

There can be up to 3-4 generations in one Muslim household. Both Boris and Kier have said it's an open-door experiment.

Starmer can't protect the Kent coast but he can protect Ukraine and there will be conscription - if you want it or not.

I don't like any MP, but David Amess did do a lot of work for women's cancer charities with extra funding and research.
 
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Green Man

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Zionists is becoming the new buzzword for Jews now, I am sure the UK is becoming more antisemitic.
 
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Jo

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Green Man wrote:
You hear about ex-Muslims calling out their brothers but it's not many, we hear about Modest Muslims but they are not vocal.
Muslim Council of Britain responds to news of the brutal murder of Sir David Amess MP

Mourning the loss of Sir David Amess MP – Muslim Council of Britain Condemns Attack on Democracy

Joint statement from all Southend Mosques mourning the tragic loss of local MP, Sir David Amess

Muslims in Southend call Sir David Amess killing an ‘indefensible atrocity’

But I expect that no matter how much moderate Muslims condemn Muslim extremism, it won't be enough for those who hate Muslims.
 
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#256253
Downing Street Cat

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Jo wrote:
Green Man wrote:
You hear about ex-Muslims calling out their brothers but it's not many, we hear about Modest Muslims but they are not vocal.
Muslim Council of Britain responds to news of the brutal murder of Sir David Amess MP

Mourning the loss of Sir David Amess MP – Muslim Council of Britain Condemns Attack on Democracy

Joint statement from all Southend Mosques mourning the tragic loss of local MP, Sir David Amess

Muslims in Southend call Sir David Amess killing an ‘indefensible atrocity’

But I expect that no matter how much moderate Muslims condemn Muslim extremism, it won't be enough for those who hate Muslims.
Exactly. And why aren't white Christians calling out white Christian shooters elsewhere? Why didn't local white Christians come out vehemently against the killer of Jo Cox? You can be radicalised no matter who you claim to belong to.
 
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Green Man

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
A very small drop in the ocean Jo!

It won't be enough for those who hate Muslims.

Who hates Muslims Jo and where did I say that? I know people who hate some of the ideology but not Muslims themselves.
 
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Green Man

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Jo Cox murder was not covered up, I doubt Thomas Mair went to church each Sunday and obeyed the Commandments. Out of interest what makes you think he was a Christian?

Most Christians I have met are filthy hypocrites. This includes the vicars and priests.

I doubt Mair knew many in the local community apart from teaching those doing basic computer courses.
 
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#256257
Green Man

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
What do you consider a Christian DSC?

To me, it's someone who is deluded to believe in fairy tales.

Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas wrote some great books about Freemasons and religion.
 
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Al Gershwin

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Christians are deluded!

Like agnostics - Jewish people, Islams, Hindus etc.

Which is best in Dorset?
 
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Downing Street Cat

Re:Sir David Amess inquiry 2 Weeks, 1 Day ago  
Green Man wrote:
What do you consider a Christian DSC?

To me, it's someone who is deluded to believe in fairy tales.

Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas wrote some great books about Freemasons and religion.


Fools and fakes GM. Indeed and I can listen to Chris Hitchens about Islam. All religion courts and richly deserves criticism.
 
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