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TOPIC: Maddie case shelved
#32746
Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
proving to me the total incompetence of global police forces.
And the fact that the media and police collude in "good stories" instead of getting anywhere near solving serious cases.

I think a British media source should examine the unsolved and failed cases - like Maddie, Sally Clark, Milly Dowler - and build up a major feature naming the names of the useless officials involved.

It would fill an entire tabloid.
 
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#32752
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
Where is Maddie? Who took her? Who murdered Milly Dowler? Why was an innocent mother jailed and pushed into an early grave for killing her babies when she didn't?

These and a dozen other equally serious questions need answers yet the media DO NOT GIVE A FUCK.

But they want more cases like "did a pop star wank off a teenage boy with the boy's consent and approval 30 years ago?".
 
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#32753
Naked and Bronzed

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
So when have the media ever given a 'fuck'? The media will never change. Might I ask JK if you would have turned your back on the media had what had happened had not happened to you? Or would you still be another cog in their wheel as you have been in the past? They were still telling lies when you worked for them!!
 
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#32754
BR

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
The Police fail to solve all the major crime in our society ( Jill Dando - Hastings Murder - Milly - Maddie and so on )

Why ?

Are they incompetent ?

You think they ARE JK...

I think they COVER UP for serious criminals.

There are several books about this including UNTOUCHABLES ( which spills the beans on Stephen Lawrence amongst many other high profile cases )

The Portugese Police did not do their job on DAY ONE - why ? because they KNEW who was responsible. Remember the COPYCAT abduction ( where the parent was again accused ) ........

Funny how the UK Police "supported" them in the cover up with the DNA bungle and the Doggie bungle. Supported by the MEDIA.

This is not ONLY to sell papers - it is ( Like the JErsey case ) in order to restrict liberty and pass more laws leading to a State where citizens are controlled and shut up through FEAR.

Today a survey has shown that KIDS are TERRIFIED of going out on the streets of the UK !!! A whole generation who are already in the grip of depression and fear because of the MEDIA campaigns.

I dont fear anyone - the only FEAR is FEAR itself undermining our confidence and our lives. I like to see the good in anyone - as we all should. The MEDIA is demonising people and nations - saying they threaten each and everyone of us......they dont. The Climate is also attacking us ( if the MEDIA is to be believed ).....no wonder KIDS are scared.

Time to throw off our chains and choose FREEDOM and start to question the MEDIA and our LAW ENFORCEMENT agencies about why they dont solve crimes and why they pick on innocent people.......like the MCCANNS.
 
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#32757
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
Oh Naked I was never under any illusion about the media and I am still very much a part of it in this internet age.

No, my eyes were and are wide open. There's a lot I love about the media - even the tabloids. My opinion and attitude hasn't altered one iota. I always felt this way and still do.

I was delighted to be a part of it. At
 
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#32758
Naked and Bronzed

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
OK JK. I though am one step ahead of the tabloids. I have an exclusive. Barry George and his retrial-ABDUCTED BY ALIENS.
 
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#32759
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
Ah so that's why he's not giving evidence - because he's no longer on this planet!
 
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#32761
BR

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
JK - yes the media as a whole is not corrupt. It is the levers within the media which are driving the media towards these goals. I think we need to realise that because many good people work in the press and media.

The problem as far as I can see it is that some very powerful people in our societies are using the media to spread fear. Governments react with restricting our freedoms. The end conclusion will be a society which is totally "unfree" where Databases control what you can and cant do. Where Gated communities sit next to sink estates - the UK seemed to have moved to a meritocratic society in the 70s and 80s.....but that seems to have been reversed by the current Government in the name of FEAR !!

Constant pumping of FEAR ( Terrorism - Pandemics - Bird Flu - Foot and Mouth - Climate Change ) with the MEDIA following this agenda.

FEAR is bad - FEAR eats away at peoples' souls....FEAR is the opposite of LOVE ( Hate is something you engender in people through frightening them )
 
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#32773
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
The time is right for that huge media campaign.

For too long the media has simply accepted the police leaks (great stories) and gone along with the police sole route of getting convictions rather than truth - because the prosecution (often lies anyway and far easier to exaggerate) is a better story.

But with the McCanns, Barry George, Sally Clark, Sion Jenkins, Jonathan King... it is now too obvious what is going on.

And the other side of the coin - what are the murderers of Milly Dowler and Jill Dando and all the other unsolved crimes concealed by the wrongful convictions doing? - is getting to be a better story.

And the angle?

Accountability. Name the individuals involved in these miscarriages of justice. Name the incompetent, lazy, useless or bent cops and lawyers.

Shame them. Fire them. Demote them.

Which newspaper will pick up on this crusade? My money's on the Mail or possibly the new Independent.
 
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#32776
JC

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I recall the BBC bringing us a main news story about a man being released on appeal after a wrongful conviction of child abuse. They told us that this was no doubt just the tip of the iceburg and that more similar cases could follow. It seemed to tie in with finding of the Parliamentary Sub Committee. However, the following day the entire subject was dropped and I've not heard it mentioned in the mainstream media again.

It is a 'good story' that innocent people are jailed by a broken or corrupt legal system. It's a massive story. But I think that people 'upstairs' decide to censor such stories because they embarrass the establishment and make the authorities seem incompetent.
 
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#32777
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I agree JC but I'm not a conspiracy theorist so whilst I do think the Establishment prefers not to publicise the thousands of successful appeals and the incompetence of the authorities, there are enough "data files lost" type stories to imply that Editors are motivated by circulation rather than obedience.

"Is it a good story?".

The problem is that even Editors, reporters and proprietors - in fact, all of us too - hate the idea that the system is broken. It disturbs and worries us. As a result, subconsciously we bury or lessen or ignore these stories.

But I genuinely feel the time has arrived when too many are noticing. Even Cameron is speaking "accountability".

The dam is bursting and I think the Barry George verdict could smash it open.
I really felt Sally Clark's death might do it, but it didn't.
 
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#32786
Dominic Dee

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I agree that an important story isn't always seen as a good story. I'd certainly buy a newspaper if it began to focus on the problems within the system and to highlight these kids of miscarriages. I don't see that happening. I think that these kind of stories will be classed as not in the interests of the general public because they undermine confidence.
 
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#32787
Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I agree DD except - I have great faith in the greed of proprietors and the paper starting a crusade against useless/lazy/bent officials and freeing innocent men and women and screaming for arrests and convictions of real criminals will be widely successful and probably drag in extra thousands of buyers.

I put that way above "undermining confidence in the system" as a motivator.

And very soon someone will realise it. And do it.

Just wait, watch and read.
 
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#32803
BR

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
It is 3 years since DE MENEZES was assassinated on our transport system.

Quite rightly those who did 7 / 7 and 21 / 7 are in prison......but still no one has been held accountable for this murder.

I believe the tide is turning against those who are corrupt and I hope that you are right JK.

But today's arrest and bailing of Christian Bale ( compare with the London man who took photos of kids doing criminal damage to his luxury estate and ended up with the Police threatening him.....) shows that the Police themselves are WAY WAY WAY off doing the right thing. Note that when asked "they have no record of " despite CCTV showing the phone call and the actual visit of the Police to this poor man's home.

The system is corrupt from top to bottom and needs to be addressed root and branch. The whole system is built on "money" rather than justice.
 
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#32806
Naked and Bronzed

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I'm going to be the party pooper. Sorry. I believe the McCanns are as guilty as hell. That's just going on the evidence, however threadbare it might be. Although the evidence of human corpse sniffer dogs that wouldn't budge from the backside of Kate McCann is very compelling. They are at least guilty of the woeful neglect of all of their children, and I'm still scratching my head how on earth that fact appears to have been lost.

Delighted that Murat succesfully sued the arses off the tabloids though.
 
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#32827
Al

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
One of the reporters on the BBC said that the McCanns could still face charges on child neglect, although that does look less likely as time moves on.

I do think there is something dodgy about the whole thing, but that's just an instinct. I can't judge on evidence as I haven't actually seen any. The investigation seems to have been conducted on the assumption that Maddie was in her bedroom at a particular time, and went missing between certain hours. If that information was false, then it's understandable that they got no result.
 
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#32829
BR

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
I am sure they are innocent - and that the "neglect" that led them to leave their holiday flat can be seen on countless holiday parks accross the World this week - parents often are at "the bar" whilst the kids entertain themselves or are in bed etc. This is very normal. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

The Police messed up the enquiry at the start by not taking it seriously and closing the road network etc

I am totally convinced she has been abducted - and a lack of remains or leads to remains despite the dogs and teams means that Maddie sadly has seen taken away from this area alive and probably sold to traffickers OR is in a cellar somewhere for someone who has severe mental problems.

The "media circus" has made us all experts about her abduction - remember there was a LARGE party of 9 or 10 friends at this complex - they ALL believed their kids were safe - these were professional and experienced people. Sadly this can happen ANYWHERE and at any time - regardless of precautions and how well off you are.

I feel desperately sorry for the McCanns because they have lost a very special daughter who they loved. For anyone to suggest otherwise without a shred of evidence based on "tittle tattle" in newspapers is a sad example of how we are all being brainwashed by the media into believing certain things.
 
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#32911
veritas

Re:Maddie case shelved 15 Years, 9 Months ago  
that's a good question..but I reckon the media has gotten completely vicious over the past ten years and has now become completely unaccountable to anyone (or the truth).

Even worse-the once great US publishing business seems to have hit rock bottom and for a country that had a history of producing fine investigative journalists-you could probably count them on one hand now. They're all terrified of their corporate masters.

Is it just a co-incidence that the great decline co-incided with the arrival in the UK and USA with the Dirty Digger ( R.Murdoch) ?.

Hark back to when the Sunday Times published the fake Hitler Diaries ( which Murdoch already knew by then were fakes)-he made the classic statement :"we're in the entertainment business"
 
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