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TOPIC: The Past
#34021
Sherena

The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
You do tend to live there - don't you JK ?
 
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#34029
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Well Sherena, I certainly cherish and enjoy the past but I'm also fairly busy in the present (check out the You Tube diaries) and have every intention of continuing in the future.

Looking at the places I've visited, things I've done (an entire 96 minute movie?) and activity (10,000 visits a day for this- including you, Sherena) over the past year, I think I've got it pretty well balanced.

Some people sadly don't seem to live at all!
 
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#34033
Sherena

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Fair enough JK.

But when you visit places, you seem to talk about the past (being there before/the Onassis story etc.), the film was all about things past and your posts on here are now frequently about 40 years ago - Keith A, Sandie S et al, more recently.

Why not concentrate on the present/future - with less TV watching - and do something conceptual and new, a thing you were very good at, in the past!

You hardly want to be coming into this fine site, daily, in 5/10 years time and talking about your VP movie ?
 
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#34035
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
I think the movie is one of the major break throughs in current technology.
Some of the new/recent songs are quite unusual too. Do try Wilde About Boys and The True Story Of Harold Shipman.
The next project (Movie 2) will be even more futuristic.
The topics discussed on both boards tend to be extremely topical.
I'm not sure what more I can do to live in the present and future.
And yes, I have 63 years of nostalgia to entertain you with too.
I think it all has a place!
 
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#34038
JC

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
I find that the past has a lot more packed into it than the present. The future is yet to be, so we can't say too much about it. All of our experiences are in the past, and the lessons we learn come from those experiences.

For example - at present I am typing on the computer (not very interesting) but I am doing this because of a post I read beforehand (past, and more interesting). JK has over 60 years of past but only this moment of present. The past is a more happening place!
 
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#34040
BR

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
People who do not learn and appreciate the past are condemned to mess up their future I believe.

I like the historical references.

As for this forum - we seem to be ahead of the Media in discussing most issues. We also have a higher level of debate from all walks of life by the looks of it. Surely that is a good thing - and I am not suprised that 10,000 a day are now reading this site. It is one of the few sites that has a genuinelty democratic feel to it - and yet personal abuse is not tolerated like on many other sites - so it is always a good read.

Well done on this forum JK !
 
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#34045
Serena

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
'The past is a more happening place'

No its not - the past is dead and buried, although it remains the main source of our experience and learning.

I run a large and busy company; if I was to dwell in the past or to concentrate on it, no targets would be met - in the future. The latter is more important and relevant; it is where we all will be in less than 1000,000th of a second; we will never be as long in the past.

We call only affect the future from the present; we can't from the past which only provides experience - and entertainment, to some. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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#34050
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Serena, we can learn from the past for the present and future.
 
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#34057
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Serena wrote:

I run a large and busy company; if I was to dwell in the past or to concentrate on it, no targets would be met - in the future.

Well yes, but life isn't all about work and targets, is it? Though it does seem that's where British civilisation is heading sometimes.

One of the good things about humans is that we are the first species to build ourselves a heritage. The fact that JK shares his colourful past with us is surely one of the reasons thousands a day visit this site.

From a political viewpoint, the fact that we do tend to affect the future from the present is the reason humans keep making the same mistakes over and over.
 
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#34058
Chris Retro

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
We should all be living in the present as that is all there is!
People who are so focused on the future, especially striving for work-driven targets constantly, are often too forcused on the future to be living in the present, similarly people who focus solely on the past never move forward nor enjoy the present moment.
HOWEVER, if watching old tv footage, listening to old music, and other historical pursuits are what floats your boat then that is enjoying the present is it not - as long as that's not ALL you do.
To the untrained observer it may look like JK spends the majority of his time at home online and watching tv, but what he has fitted into the past year alone is not the work of a couch potato....
Having said that, there is (IMO) more to discover in the past musically than there is in the present or the future cos everything has been done before...
 
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#34074
Beano

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
From having found this site and reading about JK's past, I've actually learnt quite a lot and my opinion has changed dramatically as a result, though I do appreciate it's JK's views and opinions that are being put forward
Personally, I like the past - is the greed and selfishness of society today really worth looking forward to - I don't think so?
 
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#34084
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Time machine for sale on ebay!! Any takers? I'd much rather go back in time.
 
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#34096
Sherena

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
OK... JK does live in the past. In one sence, he's a mediocrity of the past. But - put simply, his life now is about telling us that there are trafic jams in Bayswater. Also, showing clips of hols, talking about 'famous' people he bumps into CONSTANTLY and - in reality - gets up to talk to us, the internet, early. And he wonders why people laugh.....
 
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#34097
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
There`s a thought Angel, it can`t be long before some eccentric entrepreuner puts "The Plans of How To Make a Time Machine" up on E Bay!

I would not want to go back in time though really, once I`ve done something, it`s done simple as that, the cruelest thing must be when the memories really start to go.
 
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#34102
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Thank you Sherena; we suspected that's what you meant.

Spelling is something you learn in the past, use in the present and will forget in the future.
 
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#34105
mickeyone

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
I'm sure that the vast majority of the readers and posters on this message board thoroughly enjoy JK's memories and reminiscences of years gone by - he has met some incredible people during his many years in the music business. I would have loved to have been friends with John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Sir Edward Lewis and so many others.
Indeed the fact that these wonderful snapshots of the formative years of the industry sit side by side with comments on the local traffic and food, give the board a whimsical and rather surreal context. That's part of the reason that it's so addictive and unique - I don't believe that there is anything quite like it.
Finally I have to say that to call JK "mediocre" from any perspective, means that you don't know or understand the man at all!!
 
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#34109
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
I think this forum features a good balance of Past, Present and Future. You never quite know what you're going to find from day to day... it may be some archive footage and memories of legends long gone. It may be remarks on the traffic situation in London or it may be ideas about how to move forward in the ever evolving music industry.

After all on the front page of the site it clearly states,
"Welcome to the world of Jonathan
 
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#34110
Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
That all said Elliot and Mickey, he is too tall and I always tell him this when we meet!
 
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#34132
Beano

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
I had to smile when I read JK's post about 'No Limits' as it brought home memories of the past -I rememeber this only too well (what happened to Tony, didn't he become a postman?). Today, apart form the news, I watch very little TV apart from the news and why? Because of the constant dross of soaps, makeover progs and reality shows.
The past just seemed a happier time without the stress and worry of life today - maybe that's part of getting older but give me the happiness of the past any time.
 
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#34133
veritas

Re:The Past 15 Years, 8 Months ago  
Aren't you tilting at windmills a bit ?

Afterall the BBC makes a small fortune churning out bonnet dramas and such so it would seem the "past" is far more fascinating to many than you indicate. Or let's look at Southerby's which sells the "past" in art and antique furniture which increases in value every year.

But if we really want to be pendantic about it: there is no past nor is their any future-there is only the moment we are in and we can make that into anything we want.
 
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