There has been outrage because a GCSE music assignment has included Gary Glitter's hit 'leader of the gang' in it's list of recommended listening.
One parent has said, Children will go on-line and search for Glitter's music and he dreads to think what they might find. What is he talking about!! All they will find is lots of news reports about Glitter's imprisonments, they won't be confronted with child porn.
Just another case of over-exaggeration and scare mongering amongst the british press.

But if children turn to Page 3 they can see Naked Womens' Tits!!

Whoaaa; good old Sun.

Heaven forbid they might go and find a Chuck berry track somewhere or a Jerry Lee Lewis....

It just seems that because Mr Glitter seems to be keeping himself to himself, they have to find some other way of putting him in the news and thus selling newspapers for their readers titilation.
If there is such an outrage about children been confronted with child porn then don't report his crimes at all.

His record sales must be rocketing. If you were a "kid" and wanted to rebel against Sun reading parents - the best way would be to download LEADER OF THE GANG and taunt them by burning copies of the SUN.

GLITTER is not only coming back again ( Hello Again ) he is coming back to ROCK AND ROLL PART 2 of his career.

He could be playing WEMBLEY yet with the SUN's help.

Infamy has not hurt Pete D or Amy W with the kids - and drugs are more dangerous statistically than sex for ending people's lives !!

Maybe someone in the SUN has ownership of shares in his publishing

You're comparisons BR leave a lot to be desired.

re Glitter. He put his hand up to the child porn charge but the material must have been mild as he received only a 4 month sentence..and did 2.

As to his Vietnamese conviction.:I travel exstensively in Thailand ,Indonesia, Phillipines and Vietnam and have done so for nearly 30 years. The mass of people are wonderful but in all 4 countries, their police, their laws, those in power, judges , public officials etc take corruption to heights that are completely unheard of or exist in any other country on this planet.

I will never believe one single thing that I have not seen with my own eyes that emanates from most of Asia..this isn't racist..it's the truth and the corruption is visited upon the citizens of those countries in equal manner as to foreigners depending upon their importance and ability to pay their way out of situations.

One aspect of that corruption is that in 3 countries, police forces from the USA, UK and Australia exert a shocking and patronising influence on local law enforecement and use the power on the basis that those 3 countries provide aid and therefore they feel they have the right to do so.(in the Phillipines local police refuse to allow outsiders in on the lurks)

I could provide any number of examples : Glitter is one whose scalp it was rumoured authorities were after for at least 18 months before his arrest. In Bali..the so-called "Bali Nine"-9 young dopey Aussies were set up by Australian police to serve as an example about drug running. They now face a firing squad as the Bali Bombers recently did.

The AFP Police Commander ( Australia's "FBI" ) is already under suspicion about his bogus arrest of the Indian Dr Haneef-a cousin to one of one of the now proved innocent Glasgow bombers-Haneef was arrested illegally and held for 20 days and then charged with non existent offences-suddenly dropped admist great outcry. It has been already proved that AFP officers and the Commander lied under oath as did the police prosecutor..then a plot was hatched to deport Haneef illegally. Haneef now works in Dubai and is likely to receive multi-millions of dollars in compensation-apart from the $40Million wasted on the whole exercise.

In Vietnam and Thailand (avoid Indonesia-the most corrupt of all..including Bali..a one time paradise until the Balinese people were corrupted by the Indonesians) I have been told by honest NGO's that not only do Australian and British police indulge in the illegal activities (under-aged sex, drugs) they are supposedly fighting but they have also been issued with orders to arrest as many of their own visiting citizens as possible and "find" the evidence.
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OK-after that long rant..For academic reasons and a proposed book I am compliling a list of famous publications, films, books ,magazines..anything that fits the Glitter case involving the study of his music in a school, as mentioned in this thread in order to demonstrate the extraordinary and contradictary perceptions of the public and the contradictions in law.

To date I have nearly 300 examples that range from past to present items. Under current law..Carravagio would have been banged up in prison by now for producing pornorgraphy.

Only this week I received yet another example from a pal in New Zealand where he discovered this book is included in the current required reading list of schools :the famous "On The Road" written by the legendary Jack Kerouac in 1951 and regarded as a literary classic. I listened to a taped version of it this week and found the offending part ( apart from the extraordinary descriptions of drug taking )..a tale by one of the heros ( apparently Neal Cassidy..another legend of the era) and his description of his first sexual experiences with a nine year old girl. In certain US states-in Australia-such a description is classified as 'child pornography" with a possible 10 year penalty..and that includes those who publish and distribute such material (my local library where I borrowed the CD!!)

Sorry for the long rant but if you have any suggestions of similar material ( apart from The Sun..please feel free to email me on
mikedeangelos@y7mail.com

thanks !!

You're living in a dream or a nightmare if you think that Gary Glitter is going to make a comeback. People can't even utter his name let alone buy his records.

Do you really think Kids find a 64 year old bloated paedophile with a stupid beard cool. Glitter can't even leave his house for fear of attack. The tv or radio won't play his records, shops won't stock them, this is because nobody wants them.

There is a big difference between Pete D and Amy W and Gary Glitter. They are young and trendy, and anyhow Pete D has had minimal success since been kicked out of the Libertines. Do you think if they started fiddling with kids, they would be respected!!

Apparently, Gary Glitter's songs are still selling well via the internet. As a mother I really don't see what harm his music can do to children. Even if teachers think kids might search his name on google and find details of his convictions, it's a bit late as we've all already had the details thrust upon us repeatedly through the various media. If anything there's more danger of people being desensitised by the constant barrage of child abuse stories and ending up not caring anymore.

Would I let Glitter babysit my children? No.

Will I freak out if they listen to his music? No

Time to apply some balance and common sense.

Wow that was quite a post, Veritas.

Good luck with your research and book.

Good post Veritas and let us know when the book is published. I could list dozens of examples and I'll e-mail you some time with them.

The thing is, even people over 30 don't seem to want to be aware how relatively recently this whole paedo obsession started, though surely they are reminded every time they watch a carry on film or just about any classic comedy pre-nulabor. Barbara Windsor was supposed to be a 14 year old schoolgirl in that famous bra busting scene in carry on camping..in fact most carry on films contain scenes of 'child pornography' under nulabor/Untited Nations law (and yet continue to be showing mid-morning every Christmas day!).

As far as great art coming under our enlightened child pornography legislation, the list is almost infinite. The reason for that is because perhaps half of the great geniuses of history, including and above all those Ancient Greeks and Renaissance Florentines who gave us our modern world were, under nulabor/United Nations law, subhuman paedophiles.

Seems to me, in an age in which we have killed God and all the replacements such as Nationalism, Marxism, and perhaps now Capitalism, have failed, we are searching around in this moral vaccuum for something fixed and certain to cling onto, and the cult of paedohysteria seems to fit the bill. Unfortunately, moral attitudes toward sex with 'children' are about the most transient and relative as can be.