Scary scary stuff.

I'm off to bed now.

I remember the original Survivors series back in the 70s. I didn't see last night's but might check it out on BBC iPlayer. Is it supposed to be a remake of the original?

Yes Al but updated and very distressing indeed.

Good start to series.

Anyone remember

www.startrader.co.uk/Action%20TV/guide90s/lasttrain.htm

THE LAST TRAIN which was out in 1999 but never been released on DVD.

TV seems to produce one of these series every 10 years or so. During recessions they prove to be popular ways of cheering up the population because it shows that things could be alot worse:unsure:

Many thanks 2 all the writers on this board. I originally found you re; a message about the original "Survivors" series quite a while back.
I quite like the new version on BBC, but its raised a query for me.
I think we may be killing our human immune systems by vaccinating too much.
I have to say that we will catch all things coming at us if we do not have natural immunity building up in us and this BBC series represents this.

Robert Barnes wrote:
Many thanks 2 all the writers on this board. I originally found you re; a message about the original "Survivors" series quite a while back.
I quite like the new version on BBC, but its raised a query for me.
I think we may be killing our human immune systems by vaccinating too much.
I have to say that we will catch all things coming at us if we do not have natural immunity building up in us and this BBC series represents this.

Was there meant to be a comment included Zoo?

JK2006 wrote:
Was there meant to be a comment included Zoo?
There was indeed and it's something along the lines of...

Robert Barnes wrote:
Many thanks 2 all the writers on this board. I originally found you re; a message about the original "Survivors" series quite a while back.
I quite like the new version on BBC, but its raised a query for me.
I think we may be killing our human immune systems by vaccinating too much.
I have to say that we will catch all things coming at us if we do not have natural immunity building up in us and this BBC series represents this.
Vaccination stimulates the immune system it certainly doesn't "kill it".

To build up a natural immunity we need to be exposed to the pathogens we wish to become immune to and I think Centuries of people dying on mass shows we're not particularly good at it.

Vaccination does expose us to those pathogens and in effect "builds up our natural immunity" (I use quotes as it's a bit of a misnomer).

Vaccination has been a boon and prevented (Practically eliminated) countless deaths and disabilities caused by once common illnesses.


@BR

You link mentions the programme Changes - it was quite odd seeing it again a couple of years ago. I was surprised how much I remembered from seeing it as a child.

It was quite heavy stuff for children although more pleasant then the original Grimm's fairy tales Cheers for the reminder.

Do they still do children's drama?

Got round to watching Survivors on iTunes tonight. Spent most of the time trying to recall where I saw the convict before, then finally decided he reminded me of Lewis Collins. The characters were quite likeable, although the show lacked atmosphere in places. The only bit that left me cold was the final scene, in the Lab, basically because the lines were delivered so woodenly.

Also, I think the convict seemed too intelligent to believe that his money was worth holding on to, but that's a minor point.

Not a bad start.

Tonights episode of SURVIVORS was excellent. Very strong performances all round - and an interesting turf war developing - as well as characters starting to flesh out a bit more.

Very well directed and written so far and another hit following hot on the heels of MERLIN and the DOCTOR WHO revival.

PS the EISTEIN and EDDINGTON drama on Saturday night on BBC was also very worthwhile and interesting.

Missed the first episode, however, watched it last night and was another hugely impressive drama show from the BBC1.

If this ever happened in humanity now, it is very interesting to see how people would behave. I suspect that I would like to have people round me, rather than be on my own.

Hugely impressive and I can't wait for next week.

Of course I meant iPlayer (not iTunes). Watched the second episode today. Quite good. I hope it doesn't begin to over-complicate itself and drag on without any clear direction. Again not impressed with the secret Lab angle. Poor acting in the final scene again. They'd be better just focusing on how mankind survives after the disaster.

I think the best study of human behaviour is Lord of the Flies. I saw a documentary a few years back where they put a group of boys in a large house and left them to fend for themselves. It developed exactly as in Lord of the Flies, with one organised group with rules, which slintered into two rival factions with those from the 'good' faction slowly drifting over to the 'bad' but more fun faction. Finally there were only two left on the 'good' side and they were terribly tormented by the others. Unfortunately, the ex-con in Survivors is right about human nature. That's why we have laws and people to enforce them. Most of us obey the law because we know there are consequences, but once those consequences are lifted (i.e. by the removal of enforces and society's structures) most will revert to self interest and do whatever they feel is necessary to survive.