Robert and the BBC are now calling the crisis as chance to introduce the NEW CAPITALISM. Which is basically what we have all been calling THE NEW WORLD ORDER ( NWO ) for many years. A sort of STATE RUN economy which is basically funded by the NWO elite who control all money - and all of us through our tax gradually have less money ( but supposedly more say ? - joke )

One writer on the BBC site described it as follows and it is worth reading his post - we are moving towards a NWO Stalinist Society in the UK - we may need revolution if STALIN ( BROWN ) decides to use the Police and Army and abolish elections :

THE NEW COMMUNISM dont you mean robert.

the 10 main things are robert

1. Abolistion of private property

2. Heavy progressive income tax

3. central bank

4. goverment ownership of communications and tranprotation

5. Goverment ownership of factories and agriculture

6. Goverment control of labour

7. Corporate farms and regional planning

8. Goverment control of education

9. Confiscation of property rights

10. Abolistion of inheritance

The system becomes totalitarian and leads to oppression of the people it serves, And to become slaves to the state.

I CALL IT NEW COMMUNISM, SOME THE NEW WORLD ORDER. ROBERT CALLS IT A FAIRER SOCEITY

BR please please do not go on about this country being a police state or verging on communism, as you do not know what you are talking about.

I lived in Eastern Europe for many years and believe me, even if things ain't great here, there is no comparison with communist era Eastern Europe or Stalin's Russia where millions were imprisoned, murdered or sent to labour camps.

such comparisons do not give your arguments any credibility.

david

being a old dyed in the wool socialist there are some aspects I would welcome BR !

Abolition of private property..far too difficult and when it goes the other way as China is discovering with it's fledgling private property market..the problems are astronmical with so many people being hurt in the process.

2. Heavy progressive income tax and a central bank..goverment ownership of communications and tranprotation..I give a big tick to!

Goverment ownership of factories and agriculture..I'd welcome some with true competition between corporations and government owned...anything but private/public enterprises which are a total scam

What actually comes out of 2009 is going to be fascinationg to watch..the pull of fascism is ever present.

An elderly Polish neighbour of mine was a victim of the Nazis, then had to suffer communism before he escaped to the UK and married an English woman. He sees what's now going on here and says "it's all happening over again". I bow to his first hand experience.

Socialism was a confidence trick, and there is certainly nothing 'social' with the NWO policies of the ZanuNuLabour party currently forcing everything through

We're going to hell on a handcart

I have spend time in Eastern Europe as well.

We are in a formative Police State

This video has been seen by almost Quarter of a Million people. It shows the way in which the Police in the UK try to harass individuals in their own homes on the basis of laws that do not even exist.

I am sure that these two Police have not been sacked or disciplined for this - and I can also say that what the police do when cameras are not rolling is quite often far worse than this.

Interesting, BR. I posted the same clip on here over a year ago. On face value it shows the stunning lack of intelligence of our police officers, and nothing more. On the other hand, this is exactly the sort of material you would employ to uphold a fascist police state, if you wanted to, isn't it?

The video just highlights the ignorance of certain police officers. The fact that we are not yet a total police state is demostrated by the way the police had to back off. Their total disrespect for the public is demonstrated by the lack of an apology. But lack of respect for the public is a necessary foundation for a police state. Big Jacqui has something to build on.