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Good article by a visitor 15 Years, 3 Months ago  
 
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Al

Re:Good article by a visitor 15 Years, 3 Months ago  
All very true, but it tended to come across as more of an emotional outburst than a balanced presentation of the facts. He could have cited a few cases where people have been convicted without evidence. There are plenty to choose from. Those who refuse to believe that wrongful convictions occur will not be convinced by this article.
 
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veritas

Re:Good article by a visitor 15 Years, 3 Months ago  
the article is spot on and one of the worrying aspects is how the UK courts are beginning to resemble US courts in their fanatacism.

Some aspects stand out to me-the manner in which the mass media has promoted baseless fears about sex crimes..as we saw with Rebbecah Wade and her "name a pedo" campaign and "Sarah's Law".

Not one scintilla of proof is offered that these campaigns have done one single thing to prevent a crime. And they have had decades now to do so. Yet none of those in the media or the self-appointed experts , NGOS, "victims" are pulled up or questioned on this in these times of mass Attention Defecit Disorder. Even worse-ambitious politicians, devoid of any real policies jump on the banwagon for cheap and quick advantage.

Oh for the days when passionate policiticans-both Conservative and Labour, saw politics as a way of serving their fellow citizens rather than a great career move.

Th second is the compensation angle which the writer only touches upon briefly (her 20 grand figure is an under-estimation) but which is an horrendous motivating factor in false allegations. If I personally know one who has falsely accused a CathoLic priest of abuse ( after the priest was found guilty) purely as he was desperate for cash and saw no harm in Jumping on the bandwagon, how many others are there ?

Significantly, the Catholic Church offers unlimited financial support for a variety of therapies for the genuinely abused by the clergy. Very little is accessed with the vast majority taking the money, thank you very much.

Thidly-the police are quite slavish about prosecuting these alleged crimes and I believe it's because they find it leads to easy convictions. Anyone who believes that powerful police have no scruples in banging up innocents, juts isn't paying attention.

At the same time, they make a rod for their own backs..as any number will tell you the Rebeccah Wades of the world cause huge problems for police, wasted hours and money. Police have little interest in following up the so-called "sex offendors register'" because it's another beaurocratic nightmare that serves no purpose as it replicates something already in place ( called a "police record") as those charged with the welfare of Mr Glitter wil tell you when they must be really at his beck and call to divert yet another sleazy tabloid writer making everyone's life a misery.

Then there is an endless and bizarre campaign to terrify citizns that sex is a terrifying and frightful disease that will take hold of their children who may do sensual things with their peers. Control of people's lives is a powerful tool and we cannot have teens enjoying themselvs or doing what comes naturally.

Lastly is the concept , promoted by tabloids and politicians alike that all crime will one day cease or be solved. It never will-we are a brutal breed with many who do horrible things and the best we can do is try to control it.

That will never happen under the present system where tabloid mentality calls the shots. That is why Britain has, according to Scotland Yard, at least 20 powerful crime rings that each pull in billions of pounds a year and are now probably untouchable.

But hey-let's pick up on another sad mother who has had a horrible thing happen and have a Sallys or Myrtles Law and give the poor soul false hope that her loss will mean something-as long as it flogs newspapers and a pollie can sound angry and pound the table proclaiming he will "do something".
 
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BR

Re:Good article by a visitor 15 Years, 3 Months ago  
The writer seems to forget :

If anyone is ACCUSED of a SEXUAL OFFENCE then they get a Criminal Record even if they dont get charged and there is no evidence.

1. Their DNA and FINGERPRINTS are taken on arrest and kept ( Illegal according to EU courts but UK has ignored the ruling ) This gives the person a Criminal Number.

2. The offence is listed on the PNC for 10 years.

3. Any CRB check will say that this person has a Criminal Record despite not being charged or convicted.


Therefore there are NEARLY ONE MILLION UK CITIZENS on this "POLICE CRIMINAL DATABASE" of which ONE MILLION are innocent yet have a criminal record which stops them working in many jobs and taints their character.

This is how a POLICE STATE works. Anyone who says there is no POLICE STATE needs to look at this one very significant set of databases that the POLICE are now running.

The POLICE are now JUDGE AND JURY. They support their friends in getting people these NEW LABOUR CRIMINAL RECORDS.

Are you a NEW LABOUR POLICE CRIMINAL ? There are ONE MILLION OUT THERE. People who are totally innocent but have been "SET UP" often for POLITICAL REASONS.

If you BLOG like I do against the POLICE STATE - almost certainly this will happen to you. The KNOCK at the door - the allegation ( in my case made by the POLICE themselves - HA HA HA ) - and the dropped because it was so impossible........my computers taken ( And never returned - so they could check my journalistic stuff - and writings.... )

This is happening to HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE each day who oppose the NEW LABOUR POLICE STATE on the INTERNET.

I continue blogging on this brilliant forum and many others about the ABUSES OF POWER by the Police and our Government. Why ? because I have nothing to hide. They can arrest me and crawl all over my flat as much as they want - they will never find anything dodgy. So I know they cant threaten me in this way. I already have an enhanced CRB check - which I got immediately they were "released" so that I would always have evidence that this system would be used to try and CONTROL people like me who are clever enough to see what is going on. Since then they have arrested me on nearly 30 occasions. On several of them they have apologised because they have mistaken me for someone else ( joke ) One of my cars was put on the PNC as a dangerous terrorist and so I was chased up and down motorways for a couple of weeks in 2006 - until they laughingly removed it after a complaint by their own traffic police that it was preposterous. I had 30 Police arrive on my doorstep one saturday night in 2007 whilst I was watching Jekyl and Hyde on BBC 1 looking for someone ( not me.......)

and I could give you countless other examples. They HATE my blogging. They have threatened me personally and physically as well.

I continue to speak out - and after getting the Human Rights Committee of the Houses of Parliament on my side last year I have thank goodness had 6 months now of being left alone.

This article is good but the TIP OF AN ICEBERG.

We all need to challenge the BIG BROTHER STATE at all times - whether at work ( CCTV etc ID ) and in public. If we dont then we deserve to be enslaved.

The POLICE cant put us all on their databases - we cant ALL be criminals and enemies of the state.

I can quite simply state that in my view the POLICE are the criminals in our society. They act illegally according to international law in every respect of their duties. They arrest with no evidence and they hold DNA with no conviction. This makes them criminals in the eyes of the rest of the World. So when you meet someone in the Police remind them of this - they are intentionally IGNORING the law to carry out their illegal activities.

PS The POLICE are bringing in a law which puts you in jail for 10 YEARS if you film them with your phone or camera. Seriously. If you see a Policemen acting illegally and you film them or take a photo - they can arrest you and give you 10 years in jail......it goes before PARLIAMENT on 16 FEBRUARY !!!!! It is being reported by the National Union of Journalists - they are terrified they wont be able to report things like the GAZA protests in future./
 
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Al

Re:Good article by a visitor 15 Years, 3 Months ago  
A clean CRB certificate just means that you haven't been caught, BR. Or you might have committed an offence the day after you recieved it. In that respect they are worthless.

Have the police given a reason for not retirning your computers? Sounds a bit like theft to me.
 
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