The POLICE STATE is now reaching a new low. If you read the COMMENTS under the CCTV story you may come across one by ED from BELFAST.

The GOVERNMENT now is insisting on PASSPORTS for INTERNAL TRAVEL between NI and Mainland. This means that someone without a PASSPORT will be interviewed for their suitablility for a travel document that they now need to travel WITHIN the UK.

As far as I am aware NOT ONE NEWSPAPER or MEDIA OUTLET has reported on this very very very disturbing development.

I mentioned that in my research I had evidence that the GOVERNMENT intended to turn the UK into zones and stop people travelling around without documentation. But I had not seen any evidence ( apart from physical ) that had shown this plan was in action.

It now seems that the first step is to insist on PASSPORTS from NI to UK. The next step will be WALES and SCOTLAND. Then the NORTH WEST - NORTH EAST - MIDLANDS - SOUTH EAST.

This way the ID card will be introduced by stealth before the tracking chip is ready for us all.

You may laugh about this - but it is genuinely happening whilst we all have our heads in the sand.

A single terror attack in the next few years or civil disturbance will then lead to the Government declaring Martial Law and a Government of Emergency.

Where did they learn this tactic ? Look up the REICHSTAG FIRE on google.....simple but effective but they need to lay the foundations in our once "very free" society. Those foundations are now there - even though some people are too stupid to see what is happening under their noses.

V For Vendetta ( The film ) is looking like a prophecy for the UK.......very bizarre.

so much then for all the lives (incuding a close friend of mine) which were lost in the IRA campaigns to 'Make Ireland Irish Today' (Paul McCartney).

In effect it becomes a seperate state.

Interestly BR-I was in an Op Shop and found 2 dvd's by Alex Jones so bought them and they make fascinating viewing.

In one he travels to Britain to talk to people about the 7/7 bombings. Presumably it was made before the truth about the Menendez murder came out but some views expressed by people are scary.

Like the woman who has the newspaper stand at the tube station where the shooting happens who says "we should give up our rights so we can be free ". uhhh?

But he interviews so many people in the street and points out the number of CCTV cameras above them -most just don't even notice including the manager of the Hard Rock Cafe who had never looked up and seen there were a dozen right above the restaurant.

The genius of a Surveillance State is that it exists without you noticing it.

I spoke to the SFO ( Serious Fraud Office ) and they said if you "notice" something is wrong ( for instance with ID Fraud) then it is likely to be amateurs. Real fraudsters go undetected until it is too late ( Madoff - Stanford - The Surveillance State )

In many respects the CCTV state is now with us. But we can still influence how it is used. If you look around you on the roads into London you will see HUNDREDS of cameras are now on every vehicle - these are to impose a Low Emissions Zone - as well as Traffic Reports and COngestion Charges. Yet most motorists dont notice them because they dont see them as relevant to them.

If the STATE wishes to track someone they can use their mobile phone allied to the CCTV network and it is unlikely they would lose the person unless they intentionally disappeared e.g changed vehicles - went to areas where CCTV is not on most roads ( Rural Counties - Wales - Scotland )

England is now in the main a Police Monitored State. London especially is a place where we are watched by on average 500 cameras a day. I have 6 cameras within 50 feet of my front door - including one camera which is watching me as I type this through my front window.

I am used to it - it does not bother me - but it is wrong - and if ID cards and other laws are brought in then it is only a matter of time before it is used to destroy freedom in the UK.

CCTV cameras do not prevent crime. They often do not detect crime because they only have a small area of vision. Hence there are no pictures of the 9.11 flight crashing into the Pentagon ( The most secure building in the world with loads of CCTV cameras on it ) YET NOT ONE picked up the PLANE !!!!!!!! So that is proof enough that CCTV is a waste of time.

They are only good when TRACKING a PERSON. This proves that their use is not good.

I can see the day when the public rises up and destroys them all. It could be soon. There are thousands of people who disagree with them - and one night they will all be destroyed. Will I help them - too right I will. I will be out there with a SPRAY CAN of paint !!!!!

Together we can stop the Big Brother state. We all presumed GUILTY by that STATE. That is not a life that I recognise - not a life that my Grandparents fought World Wars for - they would be outraged by what is happening to our freedoms.

The "Sheeple" have been drugged by fast food and brainwashed by a repetitive media. Many of them are happy to be on benefit or low wages and spied on. They see the whole of society as their enemy and Gordon Brown as their Saviour. They are like Hitler's crowd at Nuremburg.....seduced by smooth words and empty promises of money and protection. History has shown that these sorts of States collapse. The UK will collapse. There are enough awakened people who have had enough of this out there.

Alex Jones is interesting - he is a bit like a footie commentator though in the way he is at full pitch all the time......if you know what I mean.

There will be no uprising. The people of this country are guilty of complacency on so many levels. I could see an uprising happening in Ireland or France...but not here.

BR wrote:

I can see the day when the public rises up and destroys them all. It could be soon. There are thousands of people who disagree with them - and one night they will all be destroyed. Will I help them - too right I will. I will be out there with a SPRAY CAN of paint !!!!!

Together we can stop the Big Brother state. We all presumed GUILTY by that STATE.

I agree and I'm all for such an uprising. I would be there like a shot BUT sadly, as SW points out above, the British have gotten way too lazy and apathetic for such an uprising to work and have a lasting effect.

But... it's the ONLY way we can tackle that CCTV problem. Something to dream about...