2% rise in duty. Which is 7p per pint on a £3.20 average pint.

Not good for a trade that has already taken a big hit.

Will also hit venues and live music events.

Of course the Car Industry gets a massive injection of money.

This government is killing the music industry for ordinary people.

Another huge numbers of pubs will now close in the next couple of months.

The THREE biggest stores in my High Street are now closed - the last one announced yesterday they were closing. We are left with charity shops and restaurants and a few expensive clothes shops.

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2% rise in duty. Which is 7p per pint on a £3.20 average pint.

Not good for a trade that has already taken a big hit.

Will also hit venues and live music events.

Of course the Car Industry gets a massive injection of money.

This government is killing the music industry for ordinary people.

Another huge numbers of pubs will now close in the next couple of months.

The THREE biggest stores in my High Street are now closed - the last one announced yesterday they were closing. We are left with charity shops and restaurants and a few expensive clothes shops.

an average pint isn't £3.20 in Nottingham, quite a bit less in fact.

Also, I think that many of the high street stores are going out of business as we all seem to prefer to do our shopping in out of town retail parks, malls or indeed where music is concerned the internet.

Scandalous as well that they have given money to ONE industry ( the Car industry ) and let every other industry go to the wall in this recession.

If the Government was GREEN this would not be their route out of recession. They would have put money into MANUFACTURING SOLAR PANELS or other carbon lowering schemes.

Just goes to show that GLOBAL WARMING is not happening and is just an excuse for taxation.

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If the Government was GREEN this would not be their route out of recession. They would have put money into MANUFACTURING SOLAR PANELS or other carbon lowering schemes.


The Goverment is putting money into one of the biggest global industries. Unlike Thatcher who let them all rot to the core. Lets not forget that the car manufacturers need cash to develop other forms of propulsion, namely electric, to be "greener."

The government is putting money into foreign owned car industry.

They could have saved Woolies for £300 million and 30,000 jobs. Most of the stores were profitable. It was the CD distribution which pulled it under.

As for being green - the scrappage does not give an electric car at the end of it.

The electric car scam is a myth. The electricity to power even 10% of cars would need 3 new power stations and the carbon footprint would be almost the same. Less pollution in cities - but more overall.

This is the silliness this government talks. They claim electric cars are green - and yet dont explain how and at what cost the electricity is to be produced. The public lap it up - because they think putting a plug in the wall is greener than a dirty exhaust. The truth is alot more complex.

Either we have a free market economy or not. The Government should offer the same help to ALL industries and businesses and remain neutral. Those businesses should also be UK based.

I cant see any argument for backing the Car industry at all above any other.

I don't think that people will say, "I'm not going to that gig anymore, because beer has gone up 2p a pint!!". What may kill the music industry is illegal downloads, spotify and other free music sites, and also the fact that there aren't many decent new bands around.

I was always saddened to see the rise of "malls" in GB as although they are attractive they kill off small town centres just as they have in the USA.

High Street shopping was always my preference and when I used to enjoy travelling through the USA by car I loved coming upon smaller towns and cities that had active Main Street shopping centres. Now you get ginormous souless aircraft hanger style centres out of town. That's become a real problem with the economic downturn and cost of petrol.

One of the most ruthless is Westfield owned by Aussie/ Hungarian immigrant Frank Lowy who is now the largest owner of malls throughout the world. Westfield has become quite rapacious in it's business deals..once they have a monopoly on clients with shops they are pretty tough on them.

And part of Westfield's profits are directed back to Israeli settlers who have taken over Palestinian land.

Theres one reason the pubs are closing. Tesco. Theres one reason our high streets are going to pot. Tesco. Stay in your homes, travel to the supermarket by car, get everything you need or Tesco decide you must have and return home safe and sound. Sad to say the decline of our high streets is down to the rise of the supermarkets. These companies OWN the government,Labour, Tory or Lib Dimwits the supermarkets call the shots. Theyve been doing it for years. These bastards rule the country and pay little or no tax. Who now can stop them?

Simpletons don't like progress, simpletons don't like change. The world is about evolution. Get with it or die ! It is simple. Move along with the times or perish. Sitting there and moaning about change is the daftest thing anyone can do. Let us embrace change.
I was never a fan of pubs with drunken louts, girls being picked up by rapists and murdered because they were too drunk to make a sound decision. So what if the pub dies ? People will spend their money online. I am quite pleased about this viva the internet.

Fact Number One : there is more rape and abuse within the home than because of pubs. In chav areas perhaps in the past men returned on weekend nights worse for wear but that changed in the 1980s.

Fact Number Two : Closing down every business in the UK and putting nearly 27% of the Working age population out of a full time job is not progress. You try living on £60.50 a week Unemployment benefit.

Fact Number Three : Constant Change is good mantra. This is the New Labour principle. Change everything all the time so that true progress cant be measured. The problem is that everyone can see society disintegrating.

In the areas without pubs or youth clubs or jobs the young roam the streets beating people up - and those who protest are likely to be hit by the Police. Those who roam wont be arrested because the Police dont frighten the underclass who have no jobs or income. At worst they get sent to jail where they get free board and get let out early because this problem of lack of education is epidemic.

You live in a World which I dont recognise. I suggest you call in at the Toshiba factory today - or go to Birmingham or any town and tell them they are better off losing their jobs.