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10 years old. 10 years old for christ sakes!!! How can anyone justify putting a little kid like that under pressure. Where are the NSPCC??

And if you really want to be nauseated, just take a look at the comments underneath the YouTube videos showing it. Lots of charming people calling her a spoilt little brat and accusing her of faking it.

And it is not her 'pushy parents' who are the child abusers, it is the 20 million people or so who watch a television show knowing that a pre-teen child is being subjected to such pressure for their cheap entertainment.

Remember, the government justifies locking up men for looking at pictures of topless 17 year old women because merely looking 'creates the demand'.

totally agree with you Blackit.

Give me a break, she's got the chance of a lifetime, singing in front of millions of people and the chance of making a career out of something that she loves to do. What would you rather have her do, make a career as an accountant.

yeah, but she's just a kid, being put under so much pressure by her parents, the media and millions of viewers. At her age she cannot know whether she'd like to be an accountant, a singer or whatever...

and she's competing against adults.

As a qualified teacher I know that those tears were NOT real. Perhaps she is a victim of child abuse as her mum presumably told her to cry to get the votes...Who knows!?

And what happens to her when she doesn't make it? You're certain a 10 year old can handle that?? She didn't look like she 'was loving it' when she was having an apparent nervous breakdown in front of 20 million people.

No I wouldn't prefer her to be an accountant, but I don't like her being exposed to such pressures and the spotlight while she really is still a child (not just the ZanuLabor definition of a child). If she has the talent it she will have ample time to demonstrate it later.

If anyone on that show is been abused then it is the young lad in Stavros Flatley. Can you imagine the ridicule he is going to get at school on monday after wobbling his belly around in that ridiculous dance routine. Also his parents have obviously been overfeeding him, which is a kind of naive child abuse.
Sometimes acts are so bad that they are good, but this one was so bad, it goes past good and back to bad again.

Total, utter tripe.
Maybe if she was forced onto the stage against her will, but that was obviously not the case.
There's enough unnecessary shouts of child abuse in the world without this sort of nonsensical hysteria.

And now of course she will think that if she fails at anything she will get another chance just by turning on the waterworks. Its about time BGT got rid of the kids. They are neither appealing or entertaining. As for Stavros Flatley, that should never have got thru to the auditions let alone the final.

I find most comments sections on newspapers fairly illuminating. It's amazing how many utter vindicive and nasty folk are out there.

Perhaps it's a good type of therapy. Mind you..on the News of The World & The Sun you barely get any comments at all..which is fairly telling about the readership !

Only two things need to be done.
1. Ensure at the start that each child fully contestant understands they might not win. I'm certain most do anyway.

2. Warn judges like Amanda against gushing over every child act and telling them she'll make sure they'll make the final. Praise needs to be well balanced. I've never understood why she is a judge anyway.

But look at Charlie Green from last years BGT. Rejected at the semi final stage but currently doing tours around the world. This Hollie girl has been in the spotlight and will no doubt find many doors open to her. She's not the first kid to break down - but the fact is that kids handle this kind of pressure better than many adults. The important thing with Hollie is that she carried on, plus she now has a place on the tour which will help her build confidence and add to her experience of a lifetime.

You have to get things into perspective.

It's also important to know that this is the time in her life when she needs encouragement regarding her song and dance talents. Later will be too late, because without the early encouragement, and the nurturing of her talents, she'd likely see her chance gone forever. There are thousands each week competing for places in stage schools, etc. Many get rejected, without even the opportunity that Hollie has had. They cry because it's important to them, not because they can't handle the pressure. To suddenly cry child abuse is an insult to the child, and to those around her. It also takes away the focus from genuine cases of abuse, so is rather pathetic.

Let's encourage our young talent, not beat it down.

+1eleventyone, as I believe hip parlance to indicate

No, I think I've got it in very good perspective thanks.

Placing a 10 year old kid under such pressure is simply wrong, full stop. Its child abuse. They don't even allow nervous animals to be put under that amount of pressure for our cheap entertainment anymore.

But don't worry. Nobody will go to prison to be raped and beaten. They can't do that to half the population.

It is still child abuse.

A 17 year old can't handle the pressure of posing topless or having a sexual relationshipw with an older person, but a 10 year old can handle being scrutinized live by 20 million people and then further millions of adults calling her a cry baby bitch on YouTube??? What the hell???

Read the Carol Sarler article I posted if you want to understand what it's all about.

From your third paragraph you completely shot yourself down bringing in some weird comparisons. I've been a young girl and am now a mother of young girls and I can tell you that you have no understanding of Hollie's situation or make up at all. I'm sure you'll argue different, but to me your posts are just bitter remblings. Whatever is going on in your life, you need to sort it out on a personal level and not try to transfer it onto others using people like Hollie.

Julie from Herts, you are disgraceful. I understand your pscyhological make up very well. You will scream child abuse at man taking a photo of a 17 year old girl, clap your hands when those men get sent to prison to be raped, beaten and spat upon. But by God, nobody is going to spoil your tea time entertainment in watching a little 10 year old girl being psychologically traumatised by making you feel even a little bit uneasy about it on JKs message board.

Why is it so difficult to use logic and reason instead of emotion and shaming language?

If a 46 year old adult can't handle the pressure and has apparently been placed under the mental health act, you can really watch a 10 year old visibly crumble in front of 20 million people and then feel good about yourself??

Disgusting.

Anyone here remember Lena Zavaroni?

Blackit wrote:
Julie from Herts, you are disgraceful. I understand your pscyhological make up very well. You will scream child abuse at man taking a photo of a 17 year old girl, clap your hands when those men get sent to prison to be raped, beaten and spat upon. But by God, nobody is going to spoil your tea time entertainment in watching a little 10 year old girl being psychologically traumatised by making you feel even a little bit uneasy about it on JKs message board.

Why is it so difficult to use logic and reason instead of emotion and shaming language?

If a 46 year old adult can't handle the pressure and has apparently been placed under the mental health act, you can really watch a 10 year old visibly crumble in front of 20 million people and then feel good about yourself??

Disgusting.
Making things up and then condemning someone for what was never said doesn't add to your case.

"Why is it so difficult to use logic and reason instead of emotion and shaming language?" - good advice, pity you don't think it applies to you.

Sad to say these competitions are a form of abuse for those who are vulnerable. If Hollie is vulnerable in any way then it is child abuse. Susan Boyle sadly has been used ( or abused ) by the programme because someone does not suddenly have a breakdown. She must have already been breaking down in the week(s) before the weekend and they should have withdrawn her from the competition.

I actually dont believe the VOTE anymore - the Daily Mail vote shows a clear win for Susan Boyle - and everyone I speak to had voted for her. I think they knew she was unstable and so changed the result.

These shows are great TV - but like Big Brother and the Celeb series there is always a danger of "abuse"

Children under 16 should be banned from the these programmes. They are not old enough to make the decision to put themselves out in the public eye.

In addition no one with "learning difficulties" or any previous mental health issues should be allowed to participate in these programmes - for fear that they will implode.

While we're at it, let's ban all those over 65, all those with disabilities, all those who are too fat or too thin, etc. Let's demand total purety so that only the most beautiful and ultra fit can take part.

How does that sound?

Oh, I almost forgot, let's also ban all conspiracy theorists from taking part.

Diversity got 24% to Susan Boyle's 20% (approx).
They built remarkable support over the duration of the contest, and Susan Boyle's initial impact was wearing off. She was, after all, just a singer, while Diversity broke new ground and showed genuine imagination and creativity.

I think we can bring this thread to termination by recommending everyone to watch the brilliant Little Miss Sunshine on Film4 tonight Monday at 9pm.

It says it all really.