Well - some people reading my posts on this subject on here will think I am bonkers but now the truth comes out :
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8083474.stm

This plane has been "abducted".

No idea who by - or why.

But I would say to anyone travelling by plane to make arrangements - because this may become more common.

The FIVE YEARS vision is becoming a reality.

Sympathies to everyone who has "lost" someone through this event. They still may return though......

what evidence do you have to prove the plane was abducted?

who did it?

why?

how did they do it?

why is there no trace of the abduction?


you really do love to think everything that happens is a conspiracy, don't you?

Did you vote yesterday? If so, why- as the NWO apparently controls everything anyway.

Conspiracies are much more exciting than everyday reality, which is why they attract people.

Sorry should have put this in the post as well.

Enjoy

A massive plane does not disappear completely off the face of the Earth.

Try this for logic based on what we have been told :

1. The plane fell off radar suddenly. It could only have dropped down OR up. We know that down it does not exist. Therefore unless radar is wrong it went UP.

2. Messages automatically came from the plane - hence it was not destroyed. It just sent out bizarre messages which had no relation to an aircraft flying.

3. The speed was virtually nil according to these. Consistent with going upwards vertically and slowly.

4. A cover up has been conducted because the PTB know that the plane has gone in a manner which would scare the stuff out of most people.

5. The black box has transmitters which are activated when hitting water and give out a 9km signal. The sea is only 3 - 7km to the bottom even at its deepest. The y announced they could not find the black box early on.

Therefore it seems logical to suggest that the plane has been taken UPWARDS - what we have to therefore understand is whether it has been taken by another country who are able to do such things - or as the conspiracy sites are suggesting by UFOs or aliens.

The Brazillian Air Force and Navy and many other ships are looking for this - we have satellites tracking the area. Even a nuclear sub has been sent to the area to probe the whole sea bed.

In the absence of a plane ( and by that I mean a dirty great Airbus and 228 bodies ) I suggest that we have a major problem.

I did vote yesterday. I believe in the NWO and the NWO does exist. They met according to the GUARDIAN paper a few weeks ago ( co-incidently ) This is not a conspiracy but a fact.

I am not a conspiracy theory person. I am a political historian by trade who works on the basis of evidence either that exists or is missing - both work as evidential tools.

If someone can use the evidence given so far about the plane and come up with a better explanation I would be interested. The plane can deal with storms and lightening - if it were a bomb then the auto messages would not have been sent - the plane could not have broken up mid air for the same reason. So where does that leave us - with my logically argued case above.

I am right and until this plane is found I will be right because the evidence points towards the plane being taken upwards.

It's not unusual to have difficulty locating a black box. The range may be greater than the sea is deep, but there is a lot of sea which hasn't all been properly covered yet. We must also remember that technology often goes wrong.

It's still early days, considering.

It is mysterious that all they have is a slick of oil, but bear in mind that search ships and assorted equipment have only just got to the scene of where (they reckon) the plane went down. It may take many days for them to find anything. We don't have a 'Bermuda Triangle' just yet.

Considering they found the Titanic only after the most amazing technology was developed, it's odd that a large plane can disappear like this.

Who do you think took it upwards ?

Are you referring to the Bilderberg Group ?..they sound sinister.

1. There is no radar coverage in the area where the plane went missing

2. The messages would have been automatically transmitted while the plane was in the process of breaking up.

3. The plane probably stalled due to faulty air speed speed readings, so the speed would at some point be nil.

4. There is no evidence of a cover up

5. Trying to find sunken parts of an aircraft in the middle of the Atlantic is like looking for a very small needle in a very big haystack. Some bits will be found eventually.

Just an alternative view, that's all.

On many sites and on some foreign TV stations they have interviewed Aviation engineers.

Planes do not break up in the sky. This has never happened before to any aircraft. If they lose power then they can actually glide for many miles - even in storm or snow.

The Airbus has 5 electrical systems. No event apart from a bomb could take out all the systems. The messages that were sent prove that this did not happen.

Where is the plane ?

They have now admitted it did not enter the storm.

They have had to admit that nothing adds up even by aviation standards.

The speed thing is another red herring which was known about before - it is not dangerous otherwise all Airbuses would be grounded immediately. It is something that would not effect a plane to cause it to drop out of the sky.

If the plane started to lose all system etc over a period of time why didnt the pilot mayday - as has happened when engineering problems hit a plane in all other cases.

The only cases where a plane STOPS dead - is a bomb - and a big one at that ( Lockerbie ) but why did the error messages keep being sent after the plane was in a million pieces if that is the case ?

This has the hallmarks of an abduction.

I believe the wreckage of the plane MAY be found. But at a point many miles from where it disappeared and in perhaps even stranger circumstances. I dont even believe that the passengers and crew are necessarily dead. There are too many unanswered questions.

This is one theory you wont find on TV :
topsecretairspace.blogspot.com/2009/06/b...vasion-of-earth.html

In addition the HALF PAST HUMAN science programme ( which predicted 9.11 and many other things ) predicted disappearances in June 2009. This was accepted as "People" abductions but.......

June and July have been strange months EVERY year in the World as long as I can remember. Maybe we move to a side of the sun where we are being effected by some extra EMF or raditation - which causes these electrical problems.....or if I was a UFO believer it is the side where we are easily accessible by these aliens.

All bets are off until they find the plane. Or until we get a message from whoever was responsible ( Terror group or Aliens )

i have just watched an hour-long programme on French tv with aviation experts from a range of expert areas.

They have all said that there are so many possible scenarios that it is too early to say exactly what happened.

They explained the workings of the plane, i.e. the automatic messages sent by the plane, why so many would have been sent in a range of scenarios...

They also explained why it is very difficult to locate a wreckage in a place where the sea is so deep (about 3 - 4,000 metres) even if you are very close)as there can be mountains or reefs under the sea which block the radar....

very sad for all those waiting for news of lost relatives, and proof that however technologically advanced we are, nothing is infallible.

It was a very interesting and un-sensational programme.

'Planes do not break up in the sky. This has never happened before to any aircraft.'

This plane disintegrated in flight due to severe turbulence so it does happen. Interestingly, the producers of the James Bond films were due to board this flight during preproduction for You Only Live Twice, but missed it!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_911

I admit I was wrong - it happened in "lost" TV Series

lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Confirmed_Dead

Interesting about the James Bond stuff.

Another theory doing the rounds is that a person(s) on the plane were "taken out" - either by missile or bomb.

If they do find the whole plane and black boxes I think it will have been an explosive type of event - because otherwise the pilot would have MayDayed the event and done more.

Still confused by the error messages coming after it had obviously disappeared.......any ideas anyone ?

"I have no information on why the plane crashed therefore it must have been alien abduction"

BR, are you aware why this statement is absurd?

perhaps you are onto something BR.

They've announced the discovery of 2 bodies and incredibly..an Air France airline ticket !

This sounds so similar to the extraordinary claims after 9/11 where despite over 2000 bodies plus office equipment etc being pulverised into dust, they found hijacker's passports intact.

(although other things also survived the World Trade calamity including many of Fergie's Budgie The Helicopter dolls )

Still confused by the error messages coming after it had obviously disappeared.......any ideas anyone ?[/quote]

I wonder if it is similar to the phenomenon of receiving a text message on your phone hours after someone has actually sent it. I'm sure the messaging system on an aircraft is much more sophisticated (A ground engineer can literally adjust the settings of an engine in flight from his desk), but a delay in receiving the message may account for this??

The thing is that the wreckage of a plane breaking up at cruising height can be spread over many miles. The seat and 2 bodies found may just be a small part of the wreckage. With the Lockerbie disaster, several seats with passengers still strapped to them were found 4 or 5 miles from the main crash site.
The cockpit was found a couple of miles from the wing and fuselage. Their priority should be to find the black boxes.

It's amazing what does survive.
After the blitz in WW2 they would find little items still intact among the remains of building which had been reduced to dust. Also, some toys and other small items were found in the devastation that was Hiroshima.

I understood they found the airline ticket inside a wallet which was inside a pocket of one the bodies. Not sure how accurate that is, as I only heard it from someone who saw it on ....

When you find an intact plane ticket after 5 days in hostile conditions ( according to all reports - storms and 30 foot waves ) which is instantly id'd as Air France within one hour of being found ! in a briefcase which has survived the crash ( but where is the plane ? ) then you start to wonder.

There is not a website I have visited that actually believes this "find". It is too weird.

In addition to start with they found a seat from the plane with a reference number on it......bizarre as well - but that claim has now disappeared like their claim about finding a big chunk ( 7 metres ) of plane on Tuesday ( which again disappeared .... )

There is certainly some funny business going on here. The alien abduction "idea" is just one of several. But until the whole plane has been found then that is a theory that is just as viable in my view. No one has proved there are no aliens out there as far as I am aware.

I'm not certain what stance to take on 'conspiracy theories'.

I'm inclined to think that the establishment themselves are inventing theories about alien abuductions and reptile world leaders as a form of disinformation itself. In this way, anyone questioning the more mundane abuses of power that the world establishments are engaging in is automatically tarred with the conspiracy nut theorists.

Are you are being serious or sarcastic when you admit to being wrong on the basis of a fictional TV series?

'Another theory doing the rounds is that a person(s) on the plane were "taken out" - either by missile or bomb.
'. Why can't it just be Al Quaeda blowing it up for the usual reasons of killing infidels and spreading terror? Or is that not as interesting as the bilderberg group killing 300 people to take out one person 'who knows too much'?

The metropolitan police have deliberately lied and misled the public over their force's killing of 3 different civilians in the last few years. We know this is a fact. Why don't we concentrate our energies on stuff like that instead of bringing aliens and reptiles into it?

I'm not knocking you BR because you make some very good points on this board, but lets keep our feet on the ground!

Excellent post.

The disinfo which the Police put out and Politicians now put out is so deeply engrained in our media the reason why conspiracy theories have taken such a hold of many people is because they dont believe the "stories" that they are being fed anymore.

This crash is massive. They need to find out why 228 people lost their live - 4 times the number of the London bombings.

The way in which they have "managed" the search and finds has been such to attract the attention of those who watch these things.

A terror bomb ( and thus a 5 mile footprint of debris and bodies - expanded by 5 miles each day due to currents ) is a number one possibility - though the error messages seem to contradict this. The main thing is that the pilot never sent a mayday - and that makes you think that it was sudden and catastrophic like a bomb.

But I dont rule out other theories. What are the chances that you find a ticket and seat with the plane's number on it and NOTHING else.........when searching for a HUGE plane and 228 bodies. Where are the rest of the seats ? bodies ? the massive plane ? how did a seat float up and nothing else ? and how come the seat and case that has floated up had ID in it !!! It just makes me laugh.

They have found nothing else today - again that surely shows that this "find" like the first finds is possibly a red herring.

The big question is "where is the plane ? " and "where are the bodies" - and so far there is still no answer to this.