Many people on forums including TV forums are now beginning to see the story in a new light.

1. Children of Earth. They were using the Children - the most vulnerable to create fear. This is the tactic of a Police state.

2. Government has sold out the People - this is what the NWO conspiracy theorists have been saying for nearly 20 years. It was happening in TORCHWOOD

3. The good guys become the "terrorists" in such a situation - eg. Justice is turned on its head if the STATE is evil. The Police become criminals and the public become fodder. This is what happened in Nazi Germany

4. Vaccinations - are evil. They are a COVER STORY. I believe that Swine Flu is a potential cover story for locking down the country. All will be offered vaccinations. We know that Swine Flu is very weak - not much more than a cold. It only effects weak people. Yet they will pretend it is something else in order to vaccinate us - with heaven knows what. Dont have it unless you have an underlying health problem - and even then try and not have it.

5. We are in End Times ?


I am sure there are many other things that TORCHWOOD has highlighted. It is a very powerful piece of drama - but could well have a message for us all. It is in tune with what is taking place.

We are seeing Secret Courts set up to take away children in the UK. Why ?

The PAEDO scare is not about protecting children. Of course there are some sad men in raincoats but criminalising every man as a paedo - and now they have started this week on Women.

Therefore are they planning on taking the kids away from EVERYONE ?

TORCHWOOD was amazing.

On the swine flu front, it's right to be fairly cautious. The old spanish flu was mild during late Spring and then returned to kill millions in the Autumn. So there is a pattern to learn from. It might all be an over-reaction, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

So far as I know the vaccinations will be voluntary. I doubt I'll be having one. I live in a country area and it seems to be mainly either travelors or city dwellers who get it.

Authorities have always used children to create fear. The same thing happened in the 1600s with the original witch hunts. Most accusations were made by children, or using children as an excuse to take action.

And when did we have a century in which no government sold out it's people?

If Torchwood reflects all of that, then there's been plenty of history to influence the writers, not just the present.

Don't conspiracy theorists also spread fear?

Fear is caused by the unknown. Those who seek to find the truth actually take away the fear.

The Spanish Flu did return - this is not the Spanish Flu.

It takes 6 months for a vaccine to be developed. Of course we will have that - but if the virus mutates into a killer disease the vaccine will not be 100% certain to actually protect us.

Therefore I wont be having it - and nor will anyone that I know. We prefer to see this flu as unlikely to harm us anymore than any other flu each year. In fact the statistics say it is weaker than nearly every flu that has hit the UK in recent times - so why panic and spread fear like the Government has done.

However, I still see that TORCHWOOD is taking a modern situation ( Vaccines have never been given on a compulsory basis before )

They may be basing it on the VACCINE for 13 year old girls against Cervical Cancer ( which basically is for girls who sleep around without using condoms ) but because they dont want to single out the "slappers" they make EVERY child have this vaccine. That is very very wrong.

Vaccines are not necessary as far as I can see against anything.

Since I was 5 I have never had any shots of any sort and will continue to live my life without such things. Natural immunity is much better at keeping people alive and there are many people who have died ( more than through Swine Flu ) from vaccines down the years.

No, Emma, the spread the truth. As in "the TRUTH". Honest, I know. That's why they're called "Truthers". Ask BR.

"Ask BR," ... .. maybe not the best advice.

No offence, BR, but you do tend to go off on weird tangents now and then, and your sources often turn out to be just as weird. Must admit you can be quite entertaining though.

Lets get this straight.

Conspiracy Theorists are not exactly the same as the Truth Movement.

The Truth Movement includes academics and genuine research scientists who wish to whistleblow. There are people like this in the UK Civil Service who have been arrested recently as you know.

If you read the Gray Area of Above Top Secret that is where you find the Conspiracy Theorists - now they throw ideas around but occasionally do come accross the truth. But they have a scattergun approach to things.

"Conspiracy Theorists are also called TRUTHERS - the negative spin on Conspiracy Theorists comes from the media ( e.g Tin foil hats - geeks - living with their parents ) The actual truth about Conspiracy Theorists is that the majority are highly educated with many of them being Professors or Doctors or having research qualifications already........" {www.kingofhits.co.uk/component/option,co...ew/id,46880/catid,2/}

"Lets get this straight.



Conspiracy Theorists are not exactly the same as the Truth Movement." Your last posting.
Which is it? I'm becoming confused.

Just found this interview on BBC Wales site.

Scary to think that Russell actually saw the programme as allegory BEFORE the events happened.

news.bbc.co.uk/local/southeastwales/hi/t..._8136000/8136099.stm

Note : This series was shown in the UK on 6 July - 10 July with huge ratings. I believe it is being shown in the USA this week.

In the interview this is worth noting :

At 1.56 He talks about the story being kicked off by FLU. and then he actually says

at 2.17 He says I'M WARNING YOU ( apparently in jest )


I think this series certainly raises questions about the NWO - the PTB - vaccinations - and alien relationships with the Earth.

In a very watchable way - with no luggage - just pure entertainment.

I wonder how much more of this "story" will come true.

Therefore until further notice :

I am a "TORCHWOOD VACCINATION REFUSER". I dont trust a vaccine which has only 5 days of trials. The GLAXO vaccine is not ready to produce yet or BAXTER. The only one produced is in Australia I believe - some trials happening there ?