Sorry if this is a no go area but I have to admit that I'd love to know some history of posters here. Myself: i'm in Oxford, did a Theology degree at Oxford University, done much charity work, currently in charity consultancy. Partner works in social care (including sex offenders). I have always been very open minded - I gave up a teaching career due to the stress of suspician upon average people. I thought BR was Rob Da Bank...it would be nice if we were more obvious...

hello there

I've wondered the same myself- many anonymous posters here and that has bothered me at times yet at the same time I like the free aspect of this forum and that you can post anonymously too.

however I have no problem talking about myself....

I am David, 47 years old and living in Nottingham. I have lived here for 6 years before which I lived in Budapest, Paris, London and Tampere (Finland).

I am currently out of work due to health reasons but hope to get off benefits soon.

so that's me

Not Rob Da Bank - though he wrote the forward to the book I helped write...

In my 40s working in music. Have degrees from UCL in History - LSE in Politics ( Research Nationalism) - and a PGCE from Cambridge University. Have worked for Local Authorities and Government but always been working in music first part time and now full time. Like most people in music have done everything from radio to labels to live - as well as writing,sessioning and being published. Learnt the guitar at 9 years old and Organ at 12 leading to playing for churches, cathedrals and orchestras........

Never played on or written a hit single sadly. My label has had various chart successes.

That about covers it - my other half was in business and now she works for Oxfam.

Of course Oxfam are primarily based in Oxford, I worked in their staff nursery during a teaching course I studied, bought some coffee (rather oddly) in the first ever Oxfam shop today...oh, and also got 2 Oxfam staff to attend a Finance Benchmarking workshop.

Thanks guys for your sharing, I like this board but I also like to know who I'm discussing things with - I also apreciate the anonymity but believe this is possible without being overly secretive. I think my slight 'grrrr' is that I value contributers here and often agree with what is posted but it is difficult to truly relate to topics when you have no idea who the hell is posting...

Incidently I wrote a review of 'Vile Pervert' on IMDB - the first and now 1 of 2 and in honesty I visit here for a number of reasons - I originally heard of JK because my brother liked the JK moon song - but there is always a part of me that feels uneasy posting here because of the tone of some posts. If I felt I 'knew' the posters I'd feel more willing to share my fantastical brain...

Remember the history of these Forums... when we started in the 90s they were intended to be an adjunct to the Tipsheet magazine; giving music industry people a way of passing on information, quite often confidential, so anonymity was essential.

That was long before the ubiquity of the Internet. The only other industry forum was the Velvet Rope and Julie Gordon, who started that, became a close friend and supporter.

Then I was falsely accused of ancient sex offences and Your Views became the only place where people could express support for me - again, anonymity was frequently vital as the stupids like to throw verbal stones.

Even today it is not fashionable or safe to dare express sympathy or disbelief in the system.

That's why media giants like the Sunday Times happily include my comments as long as they don't know they are by me (see last weekend).

If posters want to reveal their identities, that's fine but anonymity is also respected.

And may I also say that I admire and respect JK for this site even more. I have not had one single post that has been denied, edited or altered in any form, unlike other messageboards I have had visited. The worst offenders online are the BBC. On their old Today boards (long since axed) my posts often never saw the light of day for simply casting aspersions on the corporation or on the government. JK is not afraid of publishing views that critcise him.

BR stands for board regular. I have been posting on the Tipsheet and then here since I discovered the Tipsheet in the late 90s. The original Tipsheet was a "tough" place to post being populated by many of cynics - who seem to have lost their jobs in music down the years LOL.

I agree with the Fat Controller that this forum allows us to explore issues without fear of censorship which makes this forum one of the best places on the internet. It is also frequented by people with good brain power and common sense ( though I exclude myself from the last one !! )

Being able to be anon sometimes is very useful for whistleblowers etc. Hence this forum does not require registration which is one of the few in the World. Most sites harvest e mail addresses via registration to sell them on or use them. This is one of the few sites that exists purely for chat and for its posters.

Long may it continue and please contribute. The more people who post their thoughts on here the better - however crazy or whatever. We are a friendly bunch and even our "disagreements" are friendy - that is what free speech is about.

I agree with barnthebarn. It would be nice to know what people's backgrounds are - I'm not saying we should deny anonimity, but the rough age, sex, location stuff would be nice to know.

It's easy to talk about anything to strangers in the street and even easier to chat to people on the internet, but I find when it comes to expressing my views on sensitive subjects, I feel I have to know the person's background before continuing with the conversation, simply because it is useful to know ones company.

I've already been probed and exposed elsewhere

madamearcati.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html

but there is always a part of me that feels uneasy posting here because of the tone of some posts. If I felt I 'knew' the posters I'd feel more willing to share my fantastical brain

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. You gave up your chosen career because of the stress of being a male teacher in the paedohysteria republic of England and yet you feel unease at contributing to a board where a lot of the posts express anger at how paedohysteria is turning our society into a cesspit where every man is suspected of or even legally defined as being a paedophile??

As for me (Blackit/Incognito) I have a similar educational background to others here, live in London, am totally sickened by what is happening to society and the completely irrational morality and PC code that is behind it, and find that this forum is a good place to vent off steam with other intelligent people.

I don't like being treated like a subhuman piece of shit by society simply because I am a man. I don't like living in a society which is becoming even more sexually hypocritical and intolerant than it was in the Victorian age. I don't like having to read every day of how 88 year old men are being carted off to prison as nonces without mercy and of how 10 year old boys are sexually torturing other children.

No further explanation or reason needed.

Uneasy posting here? Yes. I am willing to answer any questions about myself. On this board people often defend proper criminals. TRUTH is that sometimes children get raped. HERE people often seem to assume all cases are mis-carriges of justice. While I appreciate the benefits of anoymity I am happy to put my name to ANY posts I have made here and anywhere else. There is a thing with being anoymous that feels like people have something to hide. This makes your posts pretty one-sided. I could probably put up a better defense of JK than many people here ans indeed have already done so. BUT IT IS DONE WITH PASSION AND CORE.
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I don't think people on here defend proper criminals or assume all are innocent. They ask questions which other forums are afraid to ask. We challenge the system on here, because sometimes the system is wrong. That may seem like we are defending criminals, but that's not the case. Everybody is entitled to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. If we wave that right for even one, then we wave it for all.

Unfortunately, people can now be arrested in the UK, under recent anti terror laws, for asking inconvenient questions. For that reason it is best to ask them anonymously.

I would never defend a proper criminal. I have spent my life exposing "Bad" people whether they are in high office or just on the street. I believe in peace and love - and in a Child's right to a happy childhood.

Certainly I do not agree with any type of Paedophilia. I believe very strongly that most Paedophilia takes place within the family unit. Organised paedophilia takes place under Government and Police and Social Services "supervision". These people are scum and they tend to look for other targets to take the "Heat" off them. Celebrity trials are their favourite. They accuse others in order to hide themselves - David Icke has written about the evidence for these things in his books - it is compelling reading and will make any decent person feel sick.

JK is not a paedophile. He is not any danger at all to anyone. He is a victim of a miscarriage of justice the same as SION JENKINS and many others. One day I am sure this will be proved.

Finally for anyone who is a paedophile and is trying to deal with it - the rest of us OWE YOU an obligation of LOVE. I firmly believe that God loves every single person - however awful the things they have done - whether murder or paedophilia etc. That truth means that every person has the right to be loved - many paedophiles are damaged and abused themselves - how can the rest of us hate them so ? We can hate their crime - but as human beings they are hurt and deserve our love and forgiveness. That is not some woolly liberal claptrap - it is something we should all attain to.

Until we start to read the teachings of Jesus again and the teachings of Mohammed and the Old Testament and other spiritual guides - our country will be a terrible place of hate. Hate breeds more hate - and a sicker society. Our society is not just broken - it is in terminal decline and eventually it will collapse under the weight of all this hate.

Our media and government rely on FEAR to rule. Whereas God created the rule of Love where everyone felt worthwhile and happy - regardless of income or class. There is no envy because God loves each of us equally.

A good way to deal with all the rubbish our media throw is to laugh out loud at every terror or paedo story - as I do regularly. The hate filled media is a joke - so laugh at the tinpot journalists who are "following the party line" by publishing an agenda of hate and fear. It takes a real Journalist with GUTS to stand up and say - BIN LADEN is dead probably - there is no evidence that this tape is from him. Until there is it is probably a fake. In the old days we needed evidence for such things. Now the media presents rumour as fact to preserve the agenda.

Stand up to these people and spread love around - by doing so you will feel better - you will have real status and this country will improve quickly.

The future is US. Lets grab it and make the world a better place. Not by being sanctimonious like St Bob or St Bono - but by just showing love in our daily lives to those around us. Not speaking ill of anyone. Not speaking hate. Befriending the poor.

barnthebarn wrote:
Uneasy posting here? Yes. I am willing to answer any questions about myself. On this board people often defend proper criminals. TRUTH is that sometimes children get raped. HERE people often seem to assume all cases are mis-carriges of justice. While I appreciate the benefits of anoymity I am happy to put my name to ANY posts I have made here and anywhere else. There is a thing with being anoymous that feels like people have something to hide. This makes your posts pretty one-sided. I could probably put up a better defense of JK than many people here ans indeed have already done so. BUT IT IS DONE WITH PASSION AND CORE.
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Not sure I agree barnthebarn. I don't see anyone here defending real criminals ( even those in government) but there is an obvious concentration on assault cases because of the board's owner.

This wouldn't however be the only websire that delves into the many miscarriages of justice.
I think the running theme on JK's site is to question every thing you read in the tabloids and that has now spread to all areas of the media.

Having just watched Michael Moore's Sicko again I was reminded of Tony Benn MP whose inteview really applies to everything...that those in authority want everyone tied to fear..of debt, of child molestors, of terrorists and so on. It makes controlling the populace so much easier.

My personal beliefs are that the concentration of the government and media on sensational sex cases has escalated to such a point that real child abuse in every forms..neglect, physical, emotional (and sexual probably being the smallest part) is now sky-rocketing. That means real problems in the future.

barnthebarn,I've been falsely accused,and am just glad there is a place on the net that is willing to believe that such things happen.

barnthebarn wrote:
Uneasy posting here? Yes. I am willing to answer any questions about myself. On this board people often defend proper criminals. TRUTH is that sometimes children get raped. HERE people often seem to assume all cases are mis-carriges of justice. While I appreciate the benefits of anoymity I am happy to put my name to ANY posts I have made here and anywhere else. There is a thing with being anoymous that feels like people have something to hide. This makes your posts pretty one-sided. I could probably put up a better defense of JK than many people here ans indeed have already done so. BUT IT IS DONE WITH PASSION AND CORE.
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barnthebarn, what exactly are you talking about? Why is 'barnthebarn' any less anonymous than 'BR' or 'Blackit' or 'innocentangel'?

Or is that your real name?

Do free speech activists in China have 'something to hide' if they use an anonymous forum to criticise their government?

Look up David Kelly. He's been in the news this week, you know.

I can relate to the reasons why some posters prefer to remain anonymous. It is not always because they have convictions. I spent some years working within the system; something I now find myself ashamed of. Most people within it find themselves unable to see things from a different angle. Those who have taken a step outside and had their eyes opened are often resented by those still within the system. Of course, it is worse for those who held high positions, which I did not.

Blackit wrote:
barnthebarn wrote:
Uneasy posting here? Yes. I am willing to answer any questions about myself. On this board people often defend proper criminals. TRUTH is that sometimes children get raped. HERE people often seem to assume all cases are mis-carriges of justice. While I appreciate the benefits of anoymity I am happy to put my name to ANY posts I have made here and anywhere else. There is a thing with being anoymous that feels like people have something to hide. This makes your posts pretty one-sided. I could probably put up a better defense of JK than many people here ans indeed have already done so. BUT IT IS DONE WITH PASSION AND CORE.
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barnthebarn, what exactly are you talking about? Why is 'barnthebarn' any less anonymous than 'BR' or 'Blackit' or 'innocentangel'?

Or is that your real name?

Do free speech activists in China have 'something to hide' if they use an anonymous forum to criticise their government?

Look up David Kelly. He's been in the news this week, you know.

it is his real name..billy barnthebarn.