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95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general
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TOPIC: 95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general
#55132
95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
No surprise there for anyone who believed JK's sole voice in 1985 - whilst everyone shouted me down.
Often the better headline gets believed.
I remember at the time getting calls from bosses at Oxfam, Save The Children and others saying "thank God you're saying this - nobody else says it".
And the problem came not only because 95% of the money went elsewhere but the money given to high profile Geldof didn't go to the established charities. So proper, well organised charities like Oxfam lost out and many died as a direct result of Live Aid.

As I warned at the time. And Boy did I get hated for daring to do so.
 
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#55138
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
Yes, and in spite of all the chaos that an earlier well-intended effort - George Harrison's concert for Bangladesh - summoned unwittingly into being. Forty years on, no change, literally.
 
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#55142
veritas

Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
I was looking after Marilyn at the time and people were making a film about Live Aid..we all ran into Boy George and were trying to persuade him to do it and then said Marilyn was and George.."well she would..wouldn't she !"..all such madly camp stuff but I couldn't stand Geldoff..never have. And he was a right bastard over Michael Hutchence when he was at his most mentally vunerable. I'm glad Tiger Lilly ended up with him though

didn't we all really know the money would never get to the right people ?

Miss Minge..whata name.
 
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#55145
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
Perhaps someone suitable - maybe Amanda Holden or John Barrowman - could just get the UK and US governments to shrink the next batch of weapons a teensy bit and donate the money saved to charity. Maybe a few Tomahawk missiles at $590,000 a go (I nearly said 'pop'), and a handful of Hellfire missiles at about $80,000 each, or, if Gordon's in a generously imprudent mood (jings!), just one Trident missile at £16.8m, and the usual targets would be reached or surpassed without any more good-hearted senior citizens, small children and impoverished parents having to dig deep into their purses and pockets. (Then the Daily Mail could drop its rant about the licence fee and educate its readers instead about where rather more of their money is invested every year!)
 
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#55195
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
An amazing amount of e-mails from people who seem to have remembered my initial criticism of Live Aid and Band Aid (covered in 65 My Life So Far).

Bob is fuming about the BBC report but every contact I had at the time said that was precisely what was happening; and that the far more experienced charities like Oxfam and Save The Children suffered dreadfully through the high profile, celebrity filled but organisationally chaotic focus.

In fact I'm surprised that 5% got through to the needy. And I wonder how many innocents were killed by the weapons purchased with the 95% of donations.

Kill The World... don't they know it's Christmas time?
 
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#55308
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
It seems the BBC are being reported to Ofcom over the report.

"Bob Geldof and the Band Aid trust are to report the BBC to the broadcasting regulator Ofcom over a World Service report that millions of pounds raised for famine victims in Ethiopia in 1985 were actually spent on weapons.

A group of Britain's most respected agencies - including Oxfam, the Red Cross, Unicef, Christian Aid and Save the Children - are joining Band Aid in writing an official complaint to the chairman of the BBC Trust, Sir Michael Lyons.

They are to complain of the "false and dangerously misleading impression" created by a report by the BBC World Service's Africa editor, Martin Plaut, which alleged that 95 per cent of the $100m in aid which went to the northern province of Tigray in 1985 had been diverted for military use by the rebel forces which held the area.
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www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radi...id-slur-1917038.html
 
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#55309
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
So who will take Bob Geldof to court for building an entire career in TV on the corpses of dead Africans? Will he produce receipts for first class air fares and luxury hotel rooms? I remember bumping into him and the Yates woman (nee Green) by the pool of the five star Mamounia Hotel in Marrakech (I couldn't afford it) just after Live Aid.

The Brits love a good hypocrite.
 
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#55345
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 2 Months ago  
Geldof milked the whole band aid thing to get his knighthood. He never gave up his mansion yet expected all the public to give up their wages and not bother paying the gas bill.

Anyone with a brain could work out that the money never gets to the needy. Same things happen now with those who give to Palestinian charities and discover it's just used for buying weapons and/or spread out amongst the charity organisers. "Sod buying shoes and clothes and feeding the desperate, lets buy some rockets and smuggle them in through the tunnels. What do you mean. why don't we smuggle aid in ?'

We are the world
we are the vermin
 
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#55691
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
'Get real, Bob - buying guns might have been better than buying food': After Geldof's angry outburst, an expert on Africa hits backBy Richard Dowden
Last updated at 12:31 AM on 14th March 2010
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Bob Geldof has never been a man to mince his words. But even by his own colourful standards he went absolutely ball-istic last week over claims that some of the money he raised through Live Aid in the Eighties might have been diverted to buy guns.

What made his vitriolic outburst even more remarkable was that it was aimed at the BBC, which famously alerted to the crisis, inspired Geldof to rage against the world’s failure to act and backed his unprecedented effort to save millions from starvation in Ethiopia.

And which continued its uncritical support right up to his more controversial Live8 concert in 2005.

Now he has launched a bitter, personal attack on Martin Plaut, the BBC World Service’s Africa Editor, who reported that some of the Live Aid cash had been used to buy weapons, rather than food.
Furious: Bob Geldof has hit out at claims that Live Aid money was used for military purposes
The subterfuge, he said, was carried out by rebel forces in Tigray without the knowledge of the aid agencies.

Geldof scornfully replied that not a shred of evidence had been produced to show that any Band Aid or Live Aid money had been diverted.

He has threatened to sue over the report which, he said, was proof that the BBC World Service had become rotten. ‘I am as bereft as a jilted lover,’ he wrote of his new-found estrangement.

The BBC stands by its story. But they can’t both be right.

Bob Geldof’s outburst at the famine in Ethiopia in 1984 served a noble purpose. Who can forget those BBC images of the time: vast encampments of starving people, heart-rending pictures of parents scratching the rock-hard ground to dig graves for their children?

Michael Buerk’s sonorous report of a ‘biblical famine... the closest thing to Hell on Earth’ gave Ethiopia a sense of cataclysm.

Then came Geldof’s shrill, enraged demand: ‘Don’t go to the pub tonight. Give me the money - NOW!’ The money poured in and the Live Aid concert eventually raised £150million.

But Geldof’s fury continued. Where was the UN’s World Food Programme that was supposed to feed the starving?

He bought grain and hired a bulk carrier to take it by sea. The RAF was called in to air-drop food to the starving. Suddenly the whole world cared about Ethiopia.

Since then, I’ve asked many outsiders working in Africa what first inspired them to go there. Most say: ‘The reports of the 1984 Ethiopian famine and Live Aid.’

But surely there is a time for anger and a time for adult, sober assessment. Most people with any experience of Africa, famine, aid and civil war realise it would be impossible to deliver aid to those who most need it without some being lost as an undeclared ‘tax’ to local warlords.

Did we even understand why this famine was happening? Buerk and some of the other journalists did mention the war but this was not the time for a lesson in Ethiopian history and politics.

The impression was made that nature had caused the great hunger, a terrible Biblical plague, an act of God. All the poor Ethiopians needed was food.

They did need food but they also needed peace. Rebel movements were driving the government and its army out of two mountainous regions, Tigray and Eritrea.

The government, headed by the military dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam, was backed by the Soviet Union and Cuba and had the biggest army in Africa.

Mengistu ruled with brutal Soviet-style-policies of forced migration and starvation. Traditional trade routes and the movement of much-needed food was impossible.

The well-organised rebels rec-eived almost no help from anyone. They lived off the land, captured weapons from their enemy and taxed the people to buy more guns and ammunition.

Although some areas of Tigray were hard hit by hunger, there was food in others.

]There was also food across the border in Sudan. Some aid agencies, notably the Catholic aid agency Cafod, saw it would be better to buy food locally rather than bring it from overseas. They also worked with a local partner.

Cafod’s local partner was the Relief Society of Tigray, known as REST, the aid department of the rebel movement, the Tigray Peoples Liberation Front, the TPLF.

This is the organisation the BBC claims diverted money meant to buy food and bought arms and military equipment instead.

I remember REST well. It had an office in Highbury, North London, and was staffed partly by British volunteers but led by Tigrayans. I was based in London at that time and if you wanted to know how the war was going, you called REST.

Its chairman was Dr Solomon Inquai, who went on to be speaker of the regional parliament in Tigray. When the boss of the TPLF, Meles Zenawi, came to London, REST staff hosted him.

It was part of the rebel movement and everyone knew it. In 1991 the TPLF defeated Mengistu and took over the whole country. Meles is now the Prime Minister.

Two disaffected TPLF leaders, Gebremedhin Araya, a former treasurer, and a co-founder, Dr Aregawi Berhe, told the BBC that their fighters posed as grain merchants and aid money handed over to them by REST officials was actually used to buy guns, not food.

Dr Aregawi says that out of the £65million given to REST, £62million bought weapons.
No hard evidence has emerged and that seems an unlikely figure. Food was definitely supplied in those areas.

Most aid agencies in war emergencies estimate that between 20 and 30 per cent of their aid will be hijacked or stolen.

In Somalia, the UN reported last week, up to 50 per cent of food aid is being stolen. Some would argue that is the price of getting the rest of the food through. Others say that aid is wasted or used to fund the war and should be stopped.

Both Gebremedhin and Aregawi have left Ethiopia and hold grudges against Prime Minister Meles. Their uncorroborated testimony should not be relied on. But the United States’ evidence for stolen aid is more credible.

The Americans had not given any substantial help to the Tigrayan rebels or their Eritrean allies, as the Soviet Union began to collapse and stopped supplying Mengistu with weapons, Washington tried to woo him.

Bob Houdek, a former US amb-assador to Addis Ababa, revealed that former rebels now in government had admitted to him that some of the food aid was ‘monetarised’ - ie sold for money to buy weapons’.

It is an eternal dilemma in places like Africa. There are some wars - Somalia is a good current example - where stolen food aid might be funding warlords or, even worse, Al Qaeda supporters.

But the wars the Eritreans and Tigrayans fought against a Soviet-backed military dictator in the Seventies and Eighties had justification.

The ultimate cause of the famine that hit Ethiopia in 1984 was not a localised drought, but a dictatorship that led to war. War disrupted trade, prevented food being moved in and caused famine.

Ending the famine meant ending the war and that meant the defeat of the vile Mengistu regime.

Any thought of buying weapons was probably the last thing on the minds of generous people as they signed a cheque or phoned in a contribution for aid to Ethiopia.

But the irony that escapes Geldof is that guns and getting rid of the Mengistu regime may have been Live Aid’s greatest contribution to preventing a new famine. That’s the reality of aid and politics in Africa.

Get real, Bob. And calm down.

lRichard Dowden is the author of Africa: Altered States, Ordinary Miracles (Portobello Books, £9.99).


www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12577...d.html#ixzz0i9kHPQ82
 
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#55692
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
..and the sanctimonious shit who is Geldof now seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. Well at least we can hope he has.
 
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#55694
robbiex

Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
So you all automatically believe a story and take it as gospel when it supports your views. This is only the view of one man, not necessarily the truth. Band aid used many of their own trucks and vehicles to distribute food, so they must have had a tight handle on where the money went. They didn't just give it to the government and say, do what you want with it.
 
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#55701
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
'Taken as gospel'? No. Just balancing things a bit. A tad paranoid there...
 
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Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
 
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#55859
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
And a detailed Mail story today...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259061...ns-DID-pay-guns.html


Dear Bob, so fookin furious about so much, so passionate and so wealthy...
 
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#55866
Blue Boy

Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
"the money given to high profile Geldof didn't go to the established charities"

So I assume you are against Sports Aid, Comic Aid et al. In fact using your logic nobody should do anything as any sucessful fund raising has to be be high profile.
 
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#55872
Re:95% of Live Aid money used to kill Ethiopians says ex rebel general 14 Years, 1 Month ago  
I'm not a fan of designer charity, no; and I hate these events because they are bad television using charity as an excuse. I do think charity is wonderful when it is unselfish and does not have an element of holiness about it.
 
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