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They are finally realising that taking away all our rights and freedoms (many hard fought for over the last 1000 years) WILL NOT make anyone any safer (even if we were at threat in the beginning - which is doubted).

What WILL make us unsafe, is continual attacks on other countries ! (Those currently reviewing the Israeli / USA plans to attack Iran please note !!!)

As the Israelis and Yanks got their heads together on Tuesday I expect a further "announcement" within a few days.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -- James Madison

'When the government fears the people it is a democracy....when the people fear their government it is tyranny...' --- Thomas Jefferson

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin


The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive.- Thomas Jefferson


The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home. - James Madison


The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. - Herman Goering


I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. - James Baldwin


Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. - Voltaire


The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated. - William Ellery Channing


"if there be one principle more deeply written than any other in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest." -- Thomas Jefferson


Criticism in a time of war is essential to the maintenance of any kind of democratic government. - Sen. Robert Taft, (R) Ohio


Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible. ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935


"patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." - Samuel Johnson


"If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied." -Thomas Jefferson


"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI

Thanks Veritas,

You left out perhaps the most apt quotation. It's from Winston Churchill, speaking in the House of Commons in 1943, back when this country really did face a serious existential threat. He said:

"The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and is the foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist."

The Terrorism Act 2000 empowers the executive to do just that. You can now be held for 28 days without charge.

Best Wishes,
Jim

Thanks, Veritas.

Could you do me (and the world) a favour?

Could you e mail that list to EVERY MP ?

And, despite their appalling record of human rights abuses, some people will still vote for Labour.