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#57472
BR

THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
Here is their advice :


Which brings us to the Tories. Certainly, the Mail has had its doubts about David Cameron, sometimes wondering if he was another Clegg-like heir to Blair.
But over the years and with every week of this campaign, he's grown in stature, displaying serious-minded conservative instincts and a tungsten determination to fulfil the Tories' traditional function of clearing up the mess left by Labour.
He's a man who believes firmly in a smaller state - indeed, the only one of the three who sees virtue as well as pressing necessity in cutting public spending.
Meanwhile, his commitments to the family (the stoutest defence against an overweening state) and to looking after the vulnerable shine through as genuinely as his belief in strong and independent institutions.
In his favour, too, he's shown huge energy, resilience and powers of leadership in uniting his party behind him.
But we stress: any voters still attracted by the idea of a hung parliament should read the account on these pages by historian Dominic Sambrook of the misery and national humiliation we suffered the last time Britain had a hung parliament, with an enfeebled Labour propped up by the Liberals.
And if you're still in doubt about what lies in store for nations that delay tackling their debt, look at Greece, where the retirement age has had to be raised by 14 years - and public-sector pay and pensions have been slashed to the bone.
For all these reasons, the Mail urges readers to vote Conservative tomorrow. David Cameron is the best and perhaps the only hope on offer for Britain.
And in this tightest of contests, he will need every last vote he can get. Don't waste yours.


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12725...r.html#ixzz0n26yL9mB
 
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#57474
JC

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
I'm still not happy with the way this election is about the individual rather than the party. I will be voting for my local Conservative MP. David Cameron just happens to currently be his party leader. I dare say that if Bill Smith was leader of the Conservatives I would still vote Conservative. It's about party policy, not who gives the best speech or has the best image.

Oddly enough I took a party match quiz and was rated closer to UKIP and LibDem than to Conservative, but that is so much about which questions are asked and how they are worded. Hopefully not many people use these quizzes (or newspapers) for direction.
 
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#57479
Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
no Tory vote from me. The thought of them back in power makes me shudder.
 
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#57483
JC

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
None of this party (except for Ken Clark) have ever been in power.

It's like comparing Tony Blair's government to Jim Callahan's. Entirely different people with a different approach.
 
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#57487
In The Know

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
JC wrote:
None of this party (except for Ken Clark) have ever been in power.

It's like comparing Tony Blair's government to Jim Callahan's. Entirely different people with a different approach.


5 more years of Labour and we'll all be out on streets (like Greece) -

news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Greek...tion_Closes_Airports
 
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#57488
In The Know

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
BR wrote:
Here is their advice :


But we stress: any voters still attracted by the idea of a hung parliament should read the account on these pages by historian Dominic Sambrook of the misery and national humiliation we suffered the last time Britain had a hung parliament, with an enfeebled Labour propped up by the Liberals.


The Germans - strongest economy in Europe? - seem to do well regularly with hung parliaments !

It's very very doubtful that the LibDems would prop-up Labour this time (as they are likely to come third in terms of votes) and Nick Clegg is on record saying he will deal with whoever has a mandate (ie whoever has the support of the people)

Besides now the middle classes have deserted Labour they are left with their "core" vote ... and they didn't stay at school long enough to learn how to spell the "X" you put on your voting form !
 
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#57493
Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
The nasty paper backs the nasty party- a perfect match.

And all this scaremongering over a hung parliament or coalition is quite ridiculous. Yes coalition governments sometimes don't work, but they often do. The following countries often have coalition cabinets:

Germany, Austria, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Japan, Switzerland, New Zealand, Ireland, Israel and more.

There are good and bad examples as in everything.
 
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#57511
Emma Bee

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
Interesting piece on the news a couple of nights ago about the election process in New Zealand. Their last few elections have resulted in hung parliaments and very little has been achieved because the politicians spend so much time seeking compromises. It was claimed that not one piece of strong legislation has been passed since the last majority government.

In Germany the leading party stays in office by doing deals with the far right extremists. People of Turkish descent (for example), even if they are third generation Germans, are not entitled to citizenship and not allowed to vote. I imagine something similar could happen here if ever deals are made with a handful of BNP who get into Parliament via PR.

Japan's main Parliament is the House of Representatives who's members are elected under a first past the post system. It is tun by the Democratic Party who have an outright majority.
The smaller House of Councillors involves the use of PR and is in hung parliament state.

Some other nations with a hung parliament also have a political Head of State (President) so their position is different.

Scaremongering? No.
Cautious warning? Yes.
 
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#57520
Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
Emma Bee wrote:


In Germany the leading party stays in office by doing deals with the far right extremists. People of Turkish descent (for example), even if they are third generation Germans, are not entitled to citizenship and not allowed to vote.


Emma, this is from the Observatory of European Foreign Policy:


In 2002 there were over 500,000 German citizens of Turkish origin. By taking on German citizenship Turks over the age of 18 also gain the right to vote in Germany contributing to the forming of policies and allowing them to choose who they feel support their wishes the most.


www.iuee.eu/pdf-dossier/12/rXNHUsicpVwS6Cd7AQHA.PDF
 
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#57525
Emma Bee

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 14 Years ago  
From the same website .. Without a doubt, the Turks in the EU and in particular in Germany have many problems and are
confronted with many obstacles. The main one is their acceptance by German society and the feeling
of belonging to this society. In the eyes of the law, foreign nationals are not considered as being on
the same level as nationals. Turkish society is not looked upon as being equal in cultural and social
dimensions.


My info was a bit out of date on the citizenship issue. Things are improving but it's clear that there are still problems facing other races in Germany.
 
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#57530
In The Know

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 13 Years, 12 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:

5 more years of Labour and we'll all be out on streets (like Greece) -

news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Greek...tion_Closes_Airports


Three people dead already !
 
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#57537
BR

Re:THE MAIL backs CAMERON ! and says vote decisively 13 Years, 12 Months ago  
I fear that whichever party gets in we are going to face similar problems to those of Greece.

It is very worrying.

3 people dead today is dreadful - because it can only get worse.
 
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