" a government report shows 1.4 million people in the UK have been on unemployment benefits for at least nine of the past 10 years "

from - news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Welfa..._For_Benefits_System

Now that the army is back from Iraq, time to give them a bit of shooting practise ?

errr. a bit excessive !

when you think about it..opposition parties are basically a waste of time and paid money for nothing as they achieve nought.

And they never win elections..governments lose them.

I'm sorry? And what crimes have these people committed? Other than being out of work to argue that fully trained up thugs should then stick the boot in to millions of people is a little reminiscent of Germany in 1936. Unemployment is created by government not by the people. If you feel people should be shot then at least start with those at the top.

The Fat Controller wrote:
I'm sorry? And what crimes have these people committed? Other than being out of work


... taking money ?

Unemployed? - for NINE years !!!!!!!

Remember this fact next time a relative wants expensive new drugs and is told (by NICE) that the country cannot afford them.

veritas wrote:
errr. a bit excessive !

I guarantee that if we shot the first 50, then the other 1,399,950 would get jobs within a week !

In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
errr. a bit excessive !

I guarantee that if we shot the first 50, then the other 1,399,950 would get jobs within a week !

Adolf Hitler...1936...then I believe they came up with their next plan...The Final Solution.

What would you do about the 15% who weren't shot and who still didn't manage to find sustainable work?

Soup Kitchens? Work houses?

We've moved on fella...and yes the unemployed need employment but certainly not being kicked when they are already down.

In The Know? ...not this time...or perhaps ever. eh?

Really and truly pisses me off to read some of the more vitriolic shit toward those at the bottom end of the scale, and those whom have been constantly neglected and even encouraged to remain in poverty by successive governments.

I've been fortunate...I've always been in work and one of my biggest nightmares is being unable to take care of myself without outside help.

Yes, there needs to be radical reformation of the welfare system, and yes there needs to be initiatives to get those whom have been dependent on welfare for years back to work and be educated...

but fuck off to those who simply want them to suffer....fuck off a million times over...because it is you people who will ultimately see them remain on the scrapheap.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rant over.

In The Know wrote:
" a government report shows 1.4 million people in the UK have been on unemployment benefits for at least nine of the past 10 years "

Now that the army is back from Iraq, time to give them a bit of shooting practise ?


Weren't you one of those calling me racist for saying lets not open the flood gates of immigration, and yet you are advocating shooting some of the weaker members of our society. These figures don't just relate to the unemployed they also relate to people on incapacity benefit. Don't you get it there aren't any jobs, and 97% of new jobs in the last 2 years have gone to immigrants. No doubt you will come back with your Daily mail spiel about British working class people been lazy and this is why so many new jobs go to immigrants.

In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
errr. a bit excessive !

I guarantee that if we shot the first 50, then the other 1,399,950 would get jobs within a week !


More benefits are spent on working families than on unemployed people, also it costs a lot less to keep someone on jobseekers allowance (£75 per week), than it does to keep them in the army and what good have the army done over the last 10 years, unless you think that killing innocent muslims is a good thing.

In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
errr. a bit excessive !

I guarantee that if we shot the first 50, then the other 1,399,950 would get jobs within a week !

sometimes you have to think outside the square.

Kit Lambert who died in 1983 but discovered The Who and Jimi Hendrix and others had a theory that the unemployment of the 1960s and the the fact that kids coul get the dole meant enough were able to conentrate on music an creatviity and thus bands brought so much money into Britain it saved the countries finances (the reason The Beatles got their MBEs)

UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html

Stephen wrote:
UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html

Stephen

I'm not against cutting the defence budget (in fact I'm all for it) - but do not automatically assume that if we save money in one area we can continue wasting it in another.

There are almost 6 million people on benefits - and 1.4 million of them have been claiming dole money (+housing benefit + child benefit + council tax benefit + others?) ... and earning (tax free) "money on the side" ?

It's time they took some responsibility for their own lives - THE WORLD DOES NOT OWE THEM A LIVING !

The Fat Controller wrote:
Really and truly pisses me off to read some of the more vitriolic shit toward those at the bottom end of the scale, and those whom have been constantly neglected and even encouraged to remain in poverty by successive governments.

I've been fortunate...I've always been in work and one of my biggest nightmares is being unable to take care of myself without outside help.

Yes, there needs to be radical reformation of the welfare system, and yes there needs to be initiatives to get those whom have been dependent on welfare for years back to work and be educated...

but fuck off to those who simply want them to suffer....fuck off a million times over...because it is you people who will ultimately see them remain on the scrapheap.

We've already spent zillions educating these people and yet most still manage to leave school without any skills whatsoever.

WHEN WILL THESE PEOPLE TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR LIVES ?

robbiex wrote:
Weren't you one of those calling me racist for saying lets not open the flood gates of immigration, and yet you are advocating shooting some of the weaker members of our society. These figures don't just relate to the unemployed they also relate to people on incapacity benefit. Don't you get it there aren't any jobs, and 97% of new jobs in the last 2 years have gone to immigrants. No doubt you will come back with your Daily mail spiel about British working class people been lazy and this is why so many new jobs go to immigrants.

I speak from experience ... I know a couple (both 20s) who AT THIS VERY MOMENT (12.35PM) WILL STILL BE IN BED !

The idle sods have absolutely no intention of getting a job whilever someone supports them.

Its time they took some responsibilty for their existance.

The Fat Controller wrote:

What would you do about the 15% who weren't shot and who still didn't manage to find sustainable work?

Soup Kitchens? Work houses?

We've moved on fella...and yes the unemployed need employment but certainly not being kicked when they are already down.

That's up to them, isn't it? Every assistance has been made available to them since they were born.

How long shall we allow this to go on? Are you quite happy to pay MORE taxes to (continue) to support them (probably forever)?

Anyone who has been out of work for NINE years - is obviously not trying hard enough (if at all).

Stephen wrote:
UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html

Hi Stephen

Since you like statistics, try these ....

Job centres in the North East say they have large numbers of unfilled vacancies, despite unemployment in the region reaching around ten per cent.

Nearly 3000 jobs advertised by Job Centre Plus remained unfilled in July 2009.

source - news.bbc.co.uk/local/tees/hi/people_and_..._8209000/8209042.stm

Stephen wrote:
UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html

btw Stephen,

You forgot to also include 22.6 Billion (for "social exclusion") and how much of the 21.7 Billion spent on "family and children" is to be added to unemployment costs?

In The Know wrote:
Stephen wrote:
UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html

Hi Stephen

Since you like statistics, try these ....

Job centres in the North East say they have large numbers of unfilled vacancies, despite unemployment in the region reaching around ten per cent.

Nearly 3000 jobs advertised by Job Centre Plus remained unfilled in July 2009.

source - news.bbc.co.uk/local/tees/hi/people_and_..._8209000/8209042.stm

I'm surpise there is that few unfilled vacancies but it depends what those jobs really are.

I think it was Norman Tebbit who once said if you couldn;t get a job where you lived you "got on yor bike" and went to where the jobs where.

Easy to say..not so easy in practise.

In The Know wrote:
Stephen wrote:
UK Public Spending for 2010

Defence: £43.7bn
Unemployment welfare: £8.1bn

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_welfare_spending_40.html
Since you like statistics, try these ....

Job centres in the North East say they have large numbers of unfilled vacancies, despite unemployment in the region reaching around ten per cent.

Nearly 3000 jobs advertised by Job Centre Plus remained unfilled in July 2009.

source - news.bbc.co.uk/local/tees/hi/people_and_..._8209000/8209042.stm

Many of the vacancies in the job centres are just teasers and the jobs don't really exist. They are merely adverts for people to join an agency to be available for various jobs such as packing etc. when and if the need arises. Also many of the jobs offer such small wages then it would be impossible for people to live on these wages. Would you work for the minimum wage.
I think there are less benefits now than under Thatcher. When I was at university we got dole money during the summer holidays and it was also available for 16-18 year olds. These have since been scrapped. When people sign on for jobseekers allowance they have to provide evidence of attempts to find work or else they will lose benefits. How rigorously they check this evidence is debatable. The fact is they probably don't think it is worth the effort because they simply know that there are few jobs out there. Apart from the fact we are in the worst recession for 80 years, technology has reduced the need for much labour. Many retail outlets provide self-service facilities and many call centres outsource work abroad. Just because this one couple that you know don't want to work, it doesn't mean that this is the case for all of the unemployed.

What about the BANKERS who got an "EMPLOYMENT BENEFIT" of around £200 Billion Quantititve Easing plus £800 billion handouts ( Northern Rock and RBS each had around £200 billion )

Surely they are the ones who are FIRST TO THE WALL. Not the poor buggers who get £60 a week unemployment benefit and struggle to pay the most basic bills.

This is the LIE that the NWO have done. The middle class turn on the POOR rather than the UBER RICH. It is the ELITE who have protected their own jobs at OUR EXPENSE and the POOR who always suffer.

I agree totally with the FAT CONTROLLER. The UNEMPLOYED are a sad statistic and need to be given REaL jobs on wages around £25K + once they have been out of work for more than 5 years. Then if they dont hold down those jobs then they should be assessed for some sort of programme.

It is the BANKERS who have put us a TRILLION in the red. Not the poor.