The police who shot Moat had only had the Taser shotguns for a few hours - and had only practised firing at rubbish bags !

The police who actually shot Moat (West Yorks police) had NOT been testing the weapons previously, so had no experience of using them.

Eye witness says police seemed "excited" at getting the new guns.

news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Raoul-...ags_Before_Stand-Off

why is this sooo expected ?

Police hyped up and champing at the bit and then, completely untrained for the role.

I wonder how much that slapper is being paid for her story?

Should it all be donated towards the cost of the operation?

I take it this was CO19 - our "crack" highly trained ( According to their own spin ) Met Police Marksmen ( any ladies ? or are they too macho )

The same people who accidently pumped tens of bullets into an innocent Brazillian on the london tube....

The same people who instead of talking to a Lawyer having a breakdown decided to pump him full of bullets so they could get home to watch TV

The same people who mistook a man carrying a bag for a man with weaponry in Hackney - and old man on his way home from a night out at that.

Surely it is time for a PUBLIC ENQUIRY into this MILITIA FORCE on our streets who seem to be "GUNG HO" and lacking in any common sense.

The public are obviously MORE at risk from these clowns than they are at the hands of any crazed Gunman running amok.

It comes to something when you are more likely to be shot by a Policeman than by a criminal.

Thanks BR, you write:

"The same people who instead of talking to a Lawyer having a breakdown decided to pump him full of bullets so they could get home to watch TV

The same people who mistook a man carrying a bag for a man with weaponry in Hackney - and old man on his way home from a night out at that."

I seem to have missed these two incidents. I'd be genuinely interested if you could elaborate on them, possibly even with sources.

Best Wishes,
Jim

Jim wrote:
The same people who mistook a man carrying a bag for a man with weaponry in Hackney - and old man on his way home from a night out at that."

BR, is the above incident the man who was carrying a table leg - and the police mistook it for a possible weapon - so shot him (dead) ?

Thanks to both,

This, I presume, is the incident: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/460116.stm

He was basically shot for turning round. It happened back in 1999. From the article, "Coroner Stephen Chan said the cause of death was a shot to the head."

How touching that back in 1999 Coroners could be trusted. By the time of the Ian Tomlinson case that had ceased to be so. Heart attack indeed! The coroner's office somehow allowed the postmortem report to go to the police who redacted it before showing it to the family, who are entitled to see it in full, unlike the police, who aren't entitled to see it at all unless they were involved in the death, which at that stage they were publicly denying. Meanwhile the pathologist who carried out the postmortem was the police's favorite Freddy Patel, now in front of the BMA for misconduct and facing being struck off. I conclude the whole lot of them, including the pathologist and the coroner's office are now suitably nobbled. That's a pretty grave blow to our freedom. Maybe this left-wing conservative government will do something about it.

And of course the media dutifully reported what the police told them to. "His death was attributed by a post-mortem to natural causes." (LEWIS, P., & LAVILLE, S., "Police Question Witness to Alleged Assault on man who died during G20 protests", The Guardian, 6th April, 2009, p9 col 1).

I had forgotten about this case because back when it happened I wasn't paying that much attention. No longer!

Best Wishes,
Jim