THE POLICE STATE
(I disappeared for 8 weeks before the election and I promised all of you that I would tell you about what happened. This is a “short” version of how I was taken by our State Police and locked up for 8 weeks for no reason. )

On the morning of 26 February 2010 I was having my first coffee of the morning and preparing to visit my partner who was in hospital when the phone rang,. It was the Police. They said they were outside my door and they wanted to talk to me.

I said could they wait a moment as I was not dressed and was in the bathroom.
As I sat on the toilet I heard my door being smashed down and soon was hearing the thuggish voice of a Policeman outside the bathroom door. They certainly wanted to intimidate me.
A friend who was staying with me appeared and this seemed to unsettle the Policeman who then said he wanted to take me down the Police Station. Perhaps they were going to beat me up if I had been alone - but luckily I was not.

I said fine and told my friend I would be back later.

When I got to the Police Station I was kept waiting for ages. I wanted to see a Doctor but the Doctor was appallingly rude to me and ran out of the room and refused to treat me because I questioned him about why I was in the Police Station/
The next I knew I was being charged - with no interview - for assaulting two Police. This totally threw me but I was told by a Police Station solicitor that I would be bailed and then I could deal with it. The allegations went back to the 1990s I might add ! Which was totally ridiculous. But these days it seems that picking a date over 10 years ago is common when trying to charge someone. Though I doubt if the CPS had any part in me being charged.
This seemed fine because I knew that I could fight these allegations but the Police then said they would not let me out of custody - so I had to spend the whole night in the Police Station. The solicitor said the court would let me go next day no problem because I had no criminal record at all and was obviously not a criminal. So I reluctantly spent the night there in a Police Cell.

This was bad enough but after being taken to a Magistrates Court I could not believe my ears when the Police said that I had been on the “run” and was a bail breaker and so could the magistrates put me in prison. My friend had come to the court and was supposed to be called to recount what had happened at my home - but he was not and was left waiting OUTSIDE the court.

The next I knew I was being put in a van and being taken to Pentonville Prison as a “bail breaker” who had NOT BEEN on bail and had never been convicted of breaking bail and was now facing serious charges of assaulting the Police. Charges that weretTotally unfounded and totally untrue and fabricated with NO evidence to back them least of all the allegation that I was a bail breaker that needed to be put into custody.
When I got to the Prison I was refused any phone contact for a week and was locked into a cell 24 hours a day for 7 days until I demanded a move to the vulnerable prisoner unit where I finally found help.

But I was refused any contact with lawyers or my family or friends.

After 2 weeks my family finally located me - because my friend was not told where I had been taken and came to the Prison - at which point they started the process of getting me out of there. But as with all things it took 8 weeks to get a hearing in a Crown Court because they blocked me talking to my lawyers for SEVEN WEEKS . It was only the personal intervention by my Wing Officer that actually got me a phone call to my lawyers after seven weeks or I would still be there now. She was incredible - and I have amazing respect for the job that those people do.

The judge - when he saw I had been imprisoned for no reason - released me immediately. But it still took the Prison 3 days to actually let me go because of an organisation called MAPPA who had blocked me from having any legal help and now blocked my release.
My 8 weeks in Pentonville were very reasonable. The food was good and everyone including other Prisoners were very friendly. In many respects I learned alot about the system and spent alot of time listening to prisoners and officers talk about what Prison was like and met loads of people who should never have been in prison.

The building was in an awful state to be fair - cockroaches roamed the cells at night and mice. Yet there was a strong sense of community that was really incredible.
At the moment I am still fighting these trumped up charges and in fact the CPS can’t decide “when” i I was supposed to have carried out these assaults even though they charged me with them nearly 6 months ago and still have not produced any evidence to prove their claims - ridiculous charges that have been obviously fabricated like my “Bail Breaking” by the POLICE who have obviously had enough of my writing about them for various blogs and news sites.
The lawyer at the bail hearing said that “The Police hate you” - we have never come across such a “hatred” for a person........and I said that I was not surprised. He was amazed at how much the Policeman had made this a personal battle with me especially because anyone who has met me knows that I am quiet and no t hreat to anyone - and very forgiving.

This is the reality of the UK Police State in 2010. This is the reality of what is happening to people. Mr Moat is just the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. Yesterday I was rung by a top lawyer asking for one of my contacts because of someone else being arrested and being kept in custody in Portsmouth. Every day more opponents of the NWO and the Police State are being arrested and being hassled like this - the list is growing all the time. This is happening to ordinary people - and the system is corrupt.

Funnily enough I found myself in a cell with a Legal guy who was about to work for the Tories for the election - they had not even sentenced him but he had been put in prison for the duration of the election campaign - letting him out the week before as well once the campaign was over. Yet another “political prisoner” - but the MP he worked for had let him down so he was none too happy. He was very angry and I had to calm him down. Another person felt the Police followed him around and I had known this person in the mid 1990s and was shocked to find them in Prison - I persuaded him to try and get his life together again and get away from the Police. I just hope he has managed that.

So for those of you on here who think that I am just deluded and fantasise about what is happening I can tell you that the threat is REAL and PRESENT - and happening to people who stand up to the NWO. There are loads of us doing this - and most of us are finding that the Police are at our door to try and shut us up. The majority of people in Pentonville believe totally in the NWO and they believe totally in what is happening - because they have seen it at first hand.
They ( the NWO ) will never shut me up - I will continue posting about the TRUTH on here and writing. The POLICE are scum - they are working to an agenda. I feel sorry for the individual POLICE who are very decent people - some of whom are open about their opposition to the “agenda” when in conversation with lawyers and me. But they tell us that they are forced into doing this - but they have some thugs amongst them who enjoy the bullying and the obvious unfairness of what is happening. Christians have been imprisoned since DAY ONE - and we will continue to be imprisoned because we wont shut up - we are here to be SALT AND LIGHT and to tell the TRUTH about what is happening.

Mr Moat was hassled - he was harassed - he was pushed until he could take no more. I have come very close to that and I am a Peace Loving Christian who is really together and who has great faith in God. So I understand what he did and why he did it. Dont believe the Police - they are incapable of telling the truth - they really are as the events surrounding De Menezes and Tomlinson have proved. We are already learning that the “police story” about Moat is totally factually wrong and just put out to rubbish him.

Until CAMERON realises what is going on - and changes it - then our country will continue to be a place where madness and war and violence happens. Where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and more discontented. I urge anyone reading this to realise that what Alex Jones and David Icke write about is not “nuts” but is in fact the real truth ( although sometimes presented in a OTT way ) and that the general thrust of what they are saying is really happening - otherwise they would have been sued by those they speak about many times. They are certainly not nutters in any sense of the word though the NWO media tries to rubbish them.
On this forum I have been accused of “making up” my stories - and I expect you will tell me again that this could not happen and that in the UK people are never treated like this........but I have never hurt anyone in my life - I am a really quiet person who does not smoke - hardly drinks and have never seen one porn or violent movie in my life. I am boring with a capital B just loving Music and football and God. Yet like Mr Moat I have been harassed by the Police ever since I started writing about the Police State and investigating the corruption and child abuse at the heart of our Government and Police.

I will keep you all posted on my progress in trying to sort out my legal position. Hopefully, I wont have to have a trial and go through the hassle of facing the Police in a courtroom......but we shall have to wait and see. I will use the TRIAL to expose what is happening and I have great support all around the UK from people who back my campaigning and my family and friends know that I am 100% innocent because they were with me at the time of the alleged assaults - so I have nothing to fear.
The POLICE in this country are out of control and cuts to them need to be made. In addition the courts need to have evidence before locking people up - not just rely on a Policeman who can tell a good story. My family are staggered by what happened - they attended the bail hearings to get me out of the Prison and said that the Police thugs were making up incredible stories until the court was shown that I was not “on the run” and never had been. The “story” was a total fabrication.

Will I get compensation ? I don’t know because no one has offered me any help to get back that 8 weeks of my life. It has cost me thousands of pounds of lost wages and missed appointments. But I have learned about the Justice System at first hand and I can see the good - but also the bad and the waste.

Finally - JK’s experiences and advice on this forum meant that when I found myself in that position I was able to cope very well. His advice was first class. When I opened up the newspaper in my cell I could even read JK’s column and I felt at home ! (thank you JK ) However, I don’t think prison is good for anyone unless they are very dangerous to others. It just fosters resentment from what I could see or criminal networking ! Many in there were basically homeless people who had realised it was a better bet than a nasty hostel. You are very well looked after !

Finally - there are more good people in the World than bad. The Prison had some bad people in there - but most were very decent and very kind. It restored my faith once again in the population of the UK. It does seem that the worst people work in the UK Police - the UK banks - the UK Government.............and therein lies the problem.

extraordinary !!

I don't know what to say.

Having read most of BR's posts over the last year my belief is that the above is a totally made up story. BR has demonstrated a very serious grudge against the police in his posts and in my opinion this is probably not the first time a fabricated story has been used to further his cause. BR probably has suffered an injustice sometime in the past and is using this as justification for his actions.

Yes, BR did not post on this board for a couple of months at the beginning of the year but given his enthusiasm in ranting about the police at every opportunity does anyone actually believe he could wait this amount of time before telling everyone about his own experiences if the reason for his absence was as described.

The majority of BR's posts have included some element of conspiracy theory so I am exercising my right to do the same. My conclusion: BR is a deluded liar who will do and say anything to "get back" at the police. There are serious mental health issues involved and if anyone does know BR I think they should do whatever they can to make sure BR seeks help, he needs it.

Thanks BR,

I'm sorry this happened to you and hope you are recovering as best as can be expected.

The corporate media could lend this story great credibility by publishing it. It is quite sensational. They would want to interview you in depth before running it and would most likely present you with some probing questions. They would also ask the police press office for their version. But the result would be a story that people would by and large believe, and not just people like us who are already generally sympathetic.

You have to understand that your story contradicts a lot of what people have come to believe about the police and the justice system over the course of their lives, based on what they have been told by people they trust and on their personal experience. For that reason it would be quite irrational for them to accept what you say just because they find it posted on an obscure web forum. What they need is something stronger and more compelling. For this to be carried as a corporate news story, even by local media, would be that something.

Can I suggest trying to find a sympathetic journalist?

Best Wishes,
Stephen

Contact LIBERTY asap ... they can put you in touch with a good lawyer and you may get some compensation.

I'm not really "into" the compensation culture, but in the case of the police constantly punishing them (financially) is about all we can do.

Welcome to B-Lair's Britain (as most of their powers these days were given by B-Liar) !

BR wrote:

On the morning of 26 February 2010 I was having my first coffee of the morning and preparing to visit my partner who was in hospital when the phone rang,. It was the Police. They said they were outside my door and they wanted to talk to me.

I said could they wait a moment as I was not dressed and was in the bathroom.
As I sat on the toilet I heard my door being smashed down and soon was hearing the thuggish voice of a Policeman outside the bathroom door. They certainly wanted to intimidate me.
A friend who was staying with me appeared and this seemed to unsettle the Policeman who then said he wanted to take me down the Police Station. Perhaps they were going to beat me up if I had been alone - but luckily I was not.

I said fine and told my friend I would be back later.

Several questions are raised by this rather strange account.

Would the police, evidently equipped and fully prepared to break in the door, really ring you up first? And would you really be drinking your first cup of coffee of the morning in the bathroom? Do you have a bathroom equipped with a telephone point? If not, is it your usual practice to have a telephone in the bathroom with you first thing in the morning? You make no mention of arrest or being read your rights. Both are legal requirements prior to being taken “down the station” if charges are to be laid {as, evidently, they were}. Arrest is a significant part of the process, and a moment of hugely significant personal impact. One which anyone who has truly been there would think of as unlikely to be left out of any genuine account. Yet you make no mention at all of it.



BR wrote:
When I got to the Police Station I was kept waiting for ages. I wanted to see a Doctor but the Doctor was appallingly rude to me and ran out of the room and refused to treat me because I questioned him about why I was in the Police Station/

It’s a usual thing for a duty solicitor on hand in a police station. Much less common are doctors. This truly is a bizarre situation. Whatever the circumstances actually were. I have been in the situation you claim you were in. I was confused, frightened, shaking and in a state of deep shock. This is normal. I’d suggest asking to see “the” doctor” isn’t. Now here’s a question for you. You claim the doctor “ran from the room”. I don’t know what “room” you imagine you would, under the circumstances, be in, but I’d suggest that any such room would be secure and much too small to “run” out of.


BR wrote:
The next I knew I was being charged - with no interview - for assaulting two Police. This totally threw me but I was told by a Police Station solicitor that I would be bailed and then I could deal with it. The allegations went back to the 1990s I might add ! Which was totally ridiculous. But these days it seems that picking a date over 10 years ago is common when trying to charge someone. Though I doubt if the CPS had any part in me being charged.

You really haven’t got any idea how things work, have you? Which is unusual for anyone who has been through what you claim you have been through. The CPS don’t have any hand at all in the charging of suspects. They make the decision as to whether or not charges are carried forward into the prosecution process. You’d know this if your imagined scenario had even a grain of truth in it.

BR wrote:
This seemed fine because I knew that I could fight these allegations but the Police then said they would not let me out of custody - so I had to spend the whole night in the Police Station. The solicitor said the court would let me go next day no problem because I had no criminal record at all and was obviously not a criminal.

A solicitor would never say something like that. No one is “obviously not a criminal”. Especially to the Duty Solicitor.

BR wrote:
So I reluctantly spent the night there in a Police Cell.

This was bad enough but after being taken to a Magistrates Court I could not believe my ears when the Police said that I had been on the “run” and was a bail breaker and so could the magistrates put me in prison. My friend had come to the court and was supposed to be called to recount what had happened at my home - but he was not and was left waiting OUTSIDE the court.

Ermm… where was your legal representation? There’s no way you appeared in a Magistrate’s Court without any. And if he was there why was he not challenging the allegation that you were a “bail breaker”. Before any Magistrate would accept this they would want evidence. Had you no previous record at all no such evidence could be produced and no Magistrate would turn down an application for bail. {the call is for denial of bail, therefore remand, not “put him in prison”} I was transparently guilty. I was bailed without question because of my previous “good character”. There was no police objection to this. And lastly, it’s the duty of your solicitor to apprise your next of kin of any result of the court’s proceedings. Either yours was negligent or you’re making things up.

BR wrote:
The next I knew I was being put in a van and being taken to Pentonville Prison as a “bail breaker” who had NOT BEEN on bail and had never been convicted of breaking bail and was now facing serious charges of assaulting the Police. Charges that weretTotally unfounded and totally untrue and fabricated with NO evidence to back them least of all the allegation that I was a bail breaker that needed to be put into custody.

This is sort of a hysterical rant. But it doesn’t sound like how anyone who had really made the transit from those little court cells to one of HM’s Prisons would relay the tale.


BR wrote:
When I got to the Prison I was refused any phone contact for a week and was locked into a cell 24 hours a day for 7 days until I demanded a move to the vulnerable prisoner unit where I finally found help.

But I was refused any contact with lawyers or my family or friends.

Now here’s a thing. I had similar problems. It was a week before I was able to speak to my wife. Not because I was refused anything. It just took time to get onto the system. I should have been able to ring. But something had gone wrong and I couldn’t. Frustrating, but simple and the result not of conspiracy but of being somehow given 2 prisoner numbers.
And you can’t “demand” a move to a VP wing. You have to apply and they’re always so full that the waiting list is long. I got onto the one in Hull very quickly because; A. Serious threats were made against my life {the razor blades pushed under my door made plain the reality of this}, and B. I was, at all times reasonable in my dealings with the Wing Officers. Had I “demanded” anything I’m sure those demands would have fallen on deaf ears, and finally C. I was lucky and a vacancy came up. The next in line {I didn’t find out about this until later when the gentleman whose place it actually should have been told me} actually gave up his place on J wing for me because “I was in the holding cell with you and you looked so completely lost and terrified”. A much bigger man than I, he was better able to cope with the bullies. I only relate this because the hoops one has to jump through in order to get onto a VP wing are ones which you, BR, are simply not at all acquainted with and have obviously not really personally encountered.
Neither do you seem to be at all familiar with the usual first experiences of prison. Nowhere do you mention induction, your medical check, your chat with one of the Listeners, your prison manual, the “welcome pack”, your canteen or any of the odd routines one has to become rapidly accustomed to. Your account of going to prison seems, somehow, completely unrecognizable to someone who actually has been there. It’s something which will stay fresh in your memory for the rest of your life. And it’s something that no one who hasn’t actually been there would relate in the simplistic terms you have. It’s just too big to be described in such trite language. It doesn’t sound even in the slightest bit realistic.
There’s one other thing which really does need to taken into account here, one which I would have expected to feature at least somewhere in this account. That “thing” is the Prison Chaplaincy. I’m not a Christian, in fact I’m not an anything. Yet, during that horrible first week in HMP Hull it was this deeply valuable body who got word out to my family that I was OK. Are they strangely unrepresented at Pentonville? As a practicing and devout Christian I would have expected them to be your first port of call. Yet you seem completely unaware of them. .


BR wrote:
After 2 weeks my family finally located me - because my friend was not told where I had been taken and came to the Prison - at which point they started the process of getting me out of there. But as with all things it took 8 weeks to get a hearing in a Crown Court because they blocked me talking to my lawyers for SEVEN WEEKS . It was only the personal intervention by my Wing Officer that actually got me a phone call to my lawyers after seven weeks or I would still be there now. She was incredible - and I have amazing respect for the job that those people do.BR wrote:


Your “Wing Officer” ? Well, they certainly exist, but there are many more than one of them. They have responsibility for the Wing. The person you claim to have had these dealings with would be your Personal Officer. He/she has responsibility for you.

The rest of your account is your usual implausible nonsense in which you attempt to tell everyone what an influential person you are and how much of a threat the police and establishment see you.
I can’t understand the following;
Why you need to make this stuff up.
Why you need to validate yourself in this way.
Why you would choose a scenario which is unlikely to be seen as in any way credible by anyone who has any experience at all of genuine prison life.
Why you thought any such people wouldn’t want to shoot holes in your story for so blatantly misrepresented what they’d actually personally experienced and survived with their senses and sensibilities intact.
What you were really doing for the period you were away from these boards {I’d certainly accept that you were “otherwise detained” because of your repeated references to being “locked up” following your return} but I’d suggest that you weren’t in prison.
Why you took so long to tell us this story if it had any truth to it.
Why you don’t get the help you so obviously need.

I'm aware, on reviewing this, that I'm applying a very rigid standard of plausibility here. You may believe I'm being unfair.
If this is indeed the account of a man who has been falsely arrested, charged and imprisoned I apologise for my lack of either belief or sympathy. If the circumstances are genuinely as set down here I'm sorry to have attempted to discredit the story being told.
But if they are the words {as I believe them to be} of a fantasist with a seriously developed persecution complex and a need to be seen as someone influential I make no such apologies. For the sake of Innocent Accused and JK, both of whom actually have been the victims of false accusations and legal process, we need to recognise that this is too big an issue to be taken without proper scrutiny. The story being told here has failed to impress me as one which carries sufficient weight of evidence to bear it out, and BR's "experiences" fail to ring any bells with me as someone who has spent time in prison. This boy has cried "Wolf" too often, and I'm afraid he has set the credibility bar with previous postings very high - too high, I'm afraid, for my skepticism to get over. To simply accept it as genuine is, I believe, an insult to those who have been wrongly incarcerated everywhere. And to challenge it seems to me to be the right thing to do. It just doesn't ring true.

Graham - I can understand your post very well. The system has made you believe that what I have written is a lie and I understand that.

I have just been in court this morning at Wood Green court 9 to try and sort this out.

Here is a link and you will see it listed under APPLICATION.

www.courtserve2.net/courtlists/current/crown/indexdailies.htm
Click on WOOD GREEN and go to court 9 and you will see it listed there for the second hearing in front of the excellent Judge Carr.......

I wish I was lying - but every word is 100% true. I dont have any mental health issues - sorry. The truth of what is happening out there is hidden from you the public.

This is what is REALLY happening. My family and friends are in such a state of shock they dont even know who to speak to - they cant believe this is happening in the UK - and let me be honest with you when the Police first started to harass me in 2003 my very own family said I was making it up and that I had mental health issues and took me to a Pyschiatrist !! Seriously - that is how brainwashed everyone is - but now they believe me totally and I might add the Doctors gave me a 100% bill of mental health......they have now seen it with their own eyes and seen the documentations and obviously my friend is also totally SCARED of what is happening out there......

Go to DAVID ICKE . COM and read his headlines - all the stories there are true as well. Ordinary people being arrested right around the UK......those of you who read the Daily Mail and close your eyes to the truth of what is happening - I pity you because one day in the next few years unless people like me can continue to fight the NWO ( peacefully I might add ) you WILL be next or your family will be next.....

Locked Out, I can understand where you are coming from (to some extent). I myself was a little bit sceptical regarding the whole story.

However, I do know what BR's real name is. I know this because he promoted some gigs for my old band a few years back.

And I can confirm that his name IS on the Crown Court list for 10:00 this morning.

BR, you have my sympathies. If I were you, I'd contact Liberty ASAP.

Thank you and thank you to the person confirming ( who know me as lots of people on here do ) that I telling the truth.

I do have an amazing legal representative. They have already got me a QC and someone who one of the best Barristers in the UK......though as others will tell you this means virtually nothing in some respects.

Locked Out - you are right to get pedantic with my account......let me give you some hard info :

1. I had my phone with me in the bathroom - I often take it in and a coffee - also a book.....need I go on !
2. The Policeman who broke down the door had no equipment - he was 6 foot 3 and about 23 stone....my door had one little lock on it.
3. Serco took me away to Pentonville. Those buses windows reflect a red glow into little plastic cells.....
4. I had a legal rep at the court but they knew nothing about anything and basically it was me saying to them that I was not on any bail - and it seemed that the Police and the Court had already decided before the hearing. I can tell you now that these courts are completely corrupt - and having a lawyer is no "defence" - they can throw you in a prison ( as I found out to my cost ) at the drop of a hat.

The reason I did not want to "rant" or tell you all about this straight away was because I needed to come to terms with what had happened. It was not like I had been in a trial facing a prison sentence - one moment I was in my bathroom and the next I was in Pentonville Prison - I can assure you that this is a totally weird experience in itself.

I am still waiting to hear what I am indicted with ( charged with ) because they have not yet made their minds up........again after 6 months they are still working it out and they are still trying to find some dirt about me - though they admitted this morning that so far they have found out NO bad character evidence about me !!! and to be honest they will not because in all my dealings with bands in my job I have only ever helped people and have never ripped off a single band in all my years in music - because I would never do that.

I am quite well known hence the other reason why I did not want to make this a big issue - and I appreciate all the good wishes from those of you who know me. Luckily when I came out many of the people I work with have been amazing to me and my partner asking us out - cooking for us - and making sure we are OK. Family visited me once they knew where I was twice a week and so did friends and so on. I certainly felt loved !!

I am 100% sure that the UK and the human race are awesome beautiful people and that there is nothing ( including being put in Pentonville ) that would ever make me too angry !! and certainly I knew from JK's posting how to deal with things when I got there......and it worked and luckily as I said I shared a cell ( Bizarrely ) with someone I knew from the 1990a who had sadly fallen on hard times. There were some musicians in there - and I know I was recognised a couple of times - but luckily as I have said if you treat people properly then when you are in "hour of need" you find that others rally round and I had no problems whilst being in there.

I do understand why some of you will think that I have "Lost it " and this is all made up - I really do - to be honest it is quite hard to believe for myself....after trusting the system so much for so many of my formative years. When I worked for the Government at the end of the 80s I suddenly realised that things were not as I had thought - I saw things from the inside and from 1991 I realised that I had been lied to by society and things were indeed different. However, I never thought our Government would set up a Neo Nazi Police Force of Paramilitary types. I might add that ALL police who have dealt with me have never been in uniform - and none of them have carried any weapons or anything. In fact you would not even believe some of them are even Police.

Remember they raided my offices and took all our PCs away in early 2008 - finding not one thing illegal on anything of course ( they have still not given them back - around £60K of master tapes and digital music masters and PCs - Laptops etc. ) We have kept ALL our hard discs going back to 1993 - so they must realise that if they could find nothing illegal going back that far that I live my life totally within the law without any pirating of music or films or illicit porn or anything grubby. I have never even had a speeding ticket despite touring the UK for many years........

The innocent are now being ripped from their homes and thrown in Prison - I am an example of that. I will fight this tooth and nail and have enough evidence to show that the claims made against me are not only wrong but have been fabricated.

Our country is out of control - I know some of you think David Icke is just a Space Caded - but I do reckon you should read between the lines and then you will understand what he is saying and what is actually happening.

CAMERON was almost grilled to pieces by the BBC this morning - even our PM is not immune to the NWO trying to hijack even his "Big Society" agenda. CAMERON is well meaning but does not realise what he is up against because he has been so privileged. If he realised he would have not take on the job........I wish him luck because he will need it and I do think he is genuine.

Locked Out - you are totally right ( and I kept it short and did not discuss Prison life )

This is a bit more detail for you :

I arrived and was put on the induction wing which A wing at Pentonville but it took around 4 hours to go up there. We had a medical with a Doctor and spoke to someone who gave us a welcome pack of biscuits - chocolate bars - orange squash )

As I said I was in there with someone who knew me and more importantly had been there....10 times before. He was amazing and basically organised for me to go to the Vulnerable Prisoner unit. They kept telling me I would be OK where I was ( They moved us off A wing after one night to G wing which is massive ) but he basically told me to hold out and I suppose we were sort of on some sort of "sit in" being locked in and all that. IT was weird.

Yes Canteen - the best part of the week for everyone - I thought it was a silly name but eventually it became essential for decent toiletries and coffee - because all we got given was tea bags with the breakfast pack.

As for the rest I agree it was crazy - I have been arrested several times by the Police ( But never charged with anything ) and my experiences were as you said but I had a lawyer. But my lawyers were NEW LABOUR lawyers and in the end because of my "views" they ditched me in 2008 - so I was lawyerless and relying on people I did not know and did not know me - a massive problem.

I cant go into the details of the case needless to say I am accused of assaulting two Police which means I am up against the whole Police force in this case. It is even more bizarre than that - but I cant sadly tell you about it. I am writing a book about it and hopefully I will be able to publish that afterwards so that people can see what I have been through.

To be honest with those of you who suggest that I go to the press - I have documents which prove EVERY single thing that I say. But - if I went public at this precise moment it would turn my "case" into a media circus. I am aware that can often lead to bad justice because it could become a situation like Mr Moat v the Police......there is only one winner - the Police because they have a multi billion PR budget and I have 50p. So I realise that I cant win a PR war - and that is why you will never read about things like this in the press. All the POLICE will be hidden behind screens as well in the trial and their names will be kept secret ( seriously - you could not make this up ) so what would the press be able to report on ?

The chaplain at Pentonville was tremendous LO. I attended the services and got alot out of the experience spiritually. It was weird but in some way it was almost like being a "Monk" being locked in a cell. Every person I shared with was also religious - either muslim or christian - so that was really good. It was a good experience in many ways and has opened my eyes even wider to the reality of the World that we live in.

Finally - I have some confidence in some of the judicial system still - the Head Judge of Wood Green is a person I respect and I believe him to be ultimately very fair - I have done jury service there and so I realise that I have a good chance of winning this case. BUT it is a lottery - and as you can imagine they throw the book if the police are involved so I would be locked up for several years for DOING NOTHING except fighting against injustice.....lets hope it does not come to that or I will be disappearing for quite a while.

you can read David Icke and he can sound quite bizarre...such as his "exploding water" tale but it is in fact true.

A main stream US TV station took various samples from the Gulf after the oil spill to a laboratory and one lot did explode before the technician could test it...he reckoned there must be heaps of ethanol that has leaked which means they have been lying about the BP oil spill. Worse than we imagine.

Poor BR..caught in a Kafka world. Keep us posted...shine the light on the cockroaches.

mind you..I've considered myself a 'political prisoner' all my life.

just haven't been locked up yet.

Thanks BR, you write:

"I realise that I cant win a PR war"

Ian Tomlinson won a PR war, and he was dead. You do need evidence though.

Best Wishes,
Jim

Good luck BR.

you know, BR- if what you say is all true, you have my sympathies.

But I have my doubts.

You have so often cried wolf on this site that I have come to regard every post you make as being worthy of a very big pinch of salt.

So if something did happen to you, you can't really blame people for not believing you.

And also, if you were in court today and that really was your name- how are we to know that you didn't commit something that did indeed merit an arrest?

I wish you well BR but based on your posts here in the two years I've been posting I cannot say I feel confident that what you say is 100% true.

Thanks as always for all the good words and LO for his especially. I do realise that because I write in a combative style and because it is the sort of thing you dont believe will ever happen to anyone in what I would call "real life" it is hard to get your head round these sorts of things. I can therefore understand how people like Mr Moat can basically "lose it" - I like to think I am a balanced person yet this whole experience has been quite a shock to me.

If anything happens to do with this important then I will let you all know - but since 26 February the Police and the courts seem to carry on without any regard to what is the truth and without any regard to facts. I seem to be watching things unfold from the "outside" and have very little say or influence over what is now a technical legal set of issues of which I am continually reminded that I dont understand anything about.

UK 2010. Police State. Fact. I dont agree at all with how Mr Moat dealt with his persecution - but I have no doubt that he was pushed and persecuted like an animal by the Police until he felt cornered and basically became rabid. That is the type of state we are living in and why so many people have understanding of his position. As you all know even before this happened to me I was outspoken about such issues - to actually now have personal experience brings it home even more.

I'm a bit surprised you haven't told us about this sooner BR.

Good grief. I am truly gobsmacked! I would sue the arse off them!!!

Sorry, I still don't believe this story.

Given the length of his posts BR is obviously very literate. Considering his mind set it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think that he was posting under other names, maybe sometimes suopporting himself. Just a thought.

I think BR needs help, he is a very disturbed person. He's got a lot of negative energy I can only hope he doesn't do anything stupid