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Raoul Moat's uncle has accused the killer's former girlfriend of having "blood on her hands" over his nephew's shooting spree.
He wrote: "This lady has the blood of two deaths and a maimed PC on her hands, all caused by the lies and the goading on the mobile (phone) prior to the incident.
"A second phone call to Raoul told him that her new boyfriend was a policeman and had a black belt in karate and if he wanted to come to the house, her boyfriend would 'do' him.
"She then went on to describe what her boyfriend was about to do to her when they went upstairs.
"She told him this knowing that he was a powder keg waiting to explode after she had previously told him that he wouldn't see his daughter again.
"I can't imagine what his state of mind must have been."
The evil slag should be charged with accessory to murder, manslaughter, incitement to murder...at least something.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
If this is true ( and it would explain things )
Then this Woman should be charged. She has clearly been the reason why these "crimes" took place. She was the "mastermind" behind the awful tragedies.
It just goes to show when you have a person who is evil then they can make evil things take place around them - without even having to pull the trigger themselves.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
what a misogynistic load of hate-filled idiots you are.
Anyone who leaves their abusive partner and lies and taunts them deserves to be shot and her partner killed?
The misogyny around this subject here and on other sites is very disturbing.
JK, your site, once a home for free speech has now become a home for conspiracy theorists and arrogant, opinionated types and has become an unpleasant place to visit.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
Nobody said she deserved to be shot David, what I said was that she should be prosecuted for causing the deaths of others (men).
Oh I forgot. If you're a man you're a disposable piece of shit. Next time I need reminding I'll look at the lists of those who died in the Titanic or the battle of the Somme (whilst Emily Pankhurst and her chums were putting white feathers through the letterboxes of disabled men).
Your shameless white knight misandry disgusts me David. All power corrupts, and when sexist manginas like you allow women absolute power, then even they can become absolutely corrupt.
And sorry to resort to name calling, but if you can call people names for simply criticising the actions of one woman...
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
I'm a guy who, quite apart from anything else, has suffered at the hands of women. I've been abused, cheated, made use of and manipulated.
I have no doubt that many women can justifiably say the same about some of the men they've had past relationships with. I know for a fact that I have abused my own wife's trust.
Very few of the people who have suffered at the hands of members of the opposite sex have gone on to kill. And to suggest that the abuse which regularly goes on within many relationships {whether straight or same-sex} is in any way justification for acts of violence is, in my view at least, plain bloody wrong no matter how you dress it up.
This woman may well have given Moat the motivation for his actions. But in no way is she responsible for them. I don't know her at all, she may be the evil cow many of you appear to believe she is {and there do seem to be many who are extremely keen to express that belief}. But please think about this. You're basing those beliefs on the words of a media you usually spend lots of your time utterly disbelieving. Many posts here and accuse that same media of lying and inventing and sensationalising simply in order to maximise sales. And some of your ideas are just plain crazy.
On what charge would this woman be arraigned?
Taunting someone?
If antagonistic words are justification for arrest and imprisonment, then BR surely deserves to be in the dock, for he is certainly extremely antagonistic toward anyone he thinks is a NWO stooge.
I'm with David. One Hundred Percent.
This is not pleasant to watch on a board which
I used to see as a beacon of tolerance and enlightened thinking which rose above the ocean of stupidity around it. Sit back for a moment and reflect on what you are doing to this board.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
The other thing that no one appears to be taking into account is the way Moat treated her. That abuse appears to be forgivable. Why? Because she didn't shoot anyone?
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
We have been told MOAT treated her badly.
We have been told now today that MOAT raped her.
This is interesting development.
I always find that when people are in the WRONG they keep changing their story. A real truthful story stays the same all the time.
If Mrs Moat was continually raped and beaten up why for instance did Mr moat have CCTV cameras installed - because that would have provided evidence for the POLICE and his girlfriend about his behaviour.....
Sorry David and LO. You are believing the rubbish in the press. I bet you even believed that MOAT blew his head off with a shotgun - which has now been proved yet another lie.
This is NOT conspiracy theory. It is about the FACTS of what happened.
What we are seeing is character assassination by the POLICE because they have killed a man.
The same *( very same ) group of POLICE said this about another man called DE MENEZES
" He was wearing bulky clothes which could have concealed a bomb - he ran into the tube station and jumped the barriers in a very suspicious way so we had to shoot him "
As we all know the CCTV cameras in that station showed that EVERY SINGLE FACT the POLICE said was a total and utter FABRICATION.
That is not CONSPIRACY THEORY - that is the truth.
Who do you believe ? A woman who lied about her new boyfriend and led to the shooting of an innocent man ?
or a DEAD MAN who was pushed to the end of his tether and DID NOT KNOW what to believe ?
I have not hate for anyone - I want to see people get on and show LOVE. I am against ALL violence of ANY sort.
Sorry David and LO. I can accept your opinions but please do not suggest that I am someone that I am not. Violence is wrong - exploitation is wrong - LYING is wrong.
The POLICE have been shown up to be liars - they have been shown up to have failed the most basic test of truth in this whole set of circumstances yet again. How can we believe ANYTHING that comes from the lips or press statements of the POLICE anymore ? They make it up as they go along. That is not a conpiracy - it is now a provable fact.
What is great about this forum is that the majority of people want better conditions for the weak and vulnerable in our society. Law and order at the point of a gun is not law and order - it is distatorship. As the USA have shown - give your Police guns and you get the "wild west". We should have learned from them and our streets would be safer now and we would not have had the BIRD or MOAT tragedies happen.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
BR wrote:
I always find that when people are in the WRONG they keep changing their story. A real truthful story stays the same all the time.
This, coming from you, is extremely rich. For as long as I have been posting to this board, BR, you have been a model of inconsistency. You are incapable of maintaining a steady line on anything, whether it's your championing of the English Defence League, your championing of the British National Party, or your championing of the Daily Mail {which is so bizarrely twisted that you can actually produce a steady stream of Mail links to "prove" your case while at the same time accusing both David and I of being "Daily Mail Readers"}.
You, above all, are responsible for the huge decline in this website's readership. It was once a great board to be a part of. It isn't any more. Your - and ITK's apparent domination with a less than subtle blend of paranoid craziness and arrogant viciousness have reduced the state of play to the point where any credibility {and there was once much} has long since departed. I wish you luck. But I suspect you'll just find other souls as tainted as your own.
Re:Moat's ex-girlfriend has 'blood on her hands' 13 Years, 9 Months ago
Locked Out wrote: You, above all, are responsible for the huge decline in this website's readership. It was once a great board to be a part of. It isn't any more. Your - and ITK's apparent domination with a less than subtle blend of paranoid craziness and arrogant viciousness have reduced the state of play to the point where any credibility {and there was once much} has long since departed.
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