The New Labour leadership election is hotting up - but I want to put this question : would the UK vote for a Jewish ( Millibands ) or Black ( Dianne Abbot ) Prime Minister ?

The "Obama Disaster" may well have put people off great "speakers" as has Tony Blair's failure put people off smooth media types.

I cant see the UK pubic going for this.

Therefore, Labour might have to choose Ed Balls.........

and CAMERON as a person is more popular than ever with those lovely photos of him and his daughter all over the press today - and instead of going to stay abroad with millionaires like BLAIR and MANDY his family have gone to Cornwall as they usually do like many ordinary UK families do every summer. Unlike Brown who never looked relaxed even when on holiday - even with a birth happening CAMERON looks very relaxed and in control.

So although I like Dianne Abbot I think Ed Balls may get the vote - but if Labour vote for a Milliband I think they will lose what is left of their public vote.

I don't think many people are even aware that the Milliband's are Jewish.

And, if a black man can be elected in America, why not a black woman here?

What does it matter, anyway?

Well, Disraeli was Jewish, wasn't he? (And on that bombshell...)

I hope (but am not certain) that the majority would realize that integrity ability and sound politics are what count and that skin colour does not determine a persons effectiveness in office. For that reason, it would not surprise me to see a furure black UK Prime Minister.
The Jew question is more difficult since you have not stated Jewish race or religion. A religiously orientated Prime minister would never be elected as Zionist policies would not be popular in the UK

Prunella Minge wrote:
Well, Disraeli was Jewish, wasn't he? (And on that bombshell...)

I believe he'd converted away from the Jewish faith...with an eye on his chances of elect-ability

Of course they would !!

they just won't vote for Millibrand or Abbot !

Prunella Minge wrote:
Well, Disraeli was Jewish, wasn't he? (And on that bombshell...)

ask Michael Howard !

Anon wrote:
The Jew question is more difficult since you have not stated Jewish race or religion. A religiously orientated Prime minister would never be elected as Zionist policies would not be popular in the UK

Ahh ... but they wouldn't announce their agenda in advance, would they ?

Plissken wrote:
I don't think many people are even aware that the Milliband's are Jewish.

What does it matter, anyway?

It matters ALOT !

Where are they taking their orders from, for example !

Prime Minister Balls. A gift to the headline writers.

In The Know wrote:
Prunella Minge wrote:
Well, Disraeli was Jewish, wasn't he? (And on that bombshell...)

ask Michael Howard !

Exactly - very good point ITK.

I just think that if Milliband gets elected then it will become a real issue before an election. The Conspiracy community has already got Milliband marked down as a member of the Zionist conspiracy and in league with their banker families who rule the World......and whether he is or not ( I have no idea ) Mandy was surely more talented than Brown yet was passed over for leadership because of his sexuality and race.

We like to think of ourselves as being colour blind - but could you see a UK Pakistani being elected as Prime Minister ? Impossible I hear you think. Exactly. The UK is a white country and everyone from every race expects a White Christian leader - note that BLAIR did not even risk converting to ROME until after he had retired from UK politics because he knew it would make him unelectable.

There are certain things that are expected of a Prime Minister. Being White ( maybe Black ) and Christian are the basics. Therefore, if New Labour elect a Milliband then I fear they will be out of power until they find a White Christian again like Tony Blair. Brown was a white Christian with a Father who in fact a minister - you could not get more conventional than that. Hence Blair and Brown ( to start with ) had the basic support of the UK.

You wont read about this in the media because they pretend that the UK is multicultural and this lie is perpetuatued on the BBC especially where they will champion Milliband to the hilt ( he seems to pop up every day being interviewed on one of their programmes as the BBC New Labour choice ) : but they are so dislocated from real politics and the people - New Labour is finished and choosing a Jewish leader would be electoral suicide because the public already blame BLAIR and BROWN for going along with the Zionists in the USA administrations who wanted all out war on ISLAM in the middle east ( Weapons of Mass Destruction : Blair's contribution and the UK's lie which saw millions of innocent women and children and men die - and still dying )

This is an observation - I have many Jewish friends and as a Christian see them as God's chosen people who would lead the world back to God. But Zionists are not Christian - they are war mongers working for an evil agenda to destroy life as has been proved time and time again. This is not a racist view but one based on a minority within the Jewish community who are hell bent on destroying ISLAM in the same way that there is a minority in ISLAM who wish to do the same back to them.

Therefore, I think that the UK public would be greatly influenced by the race of a leader - as they were by HOWARD ( Remember the New Labour comparison of him with the Shylock of fiction ).

Labour will be destroyed completely if they vote in a Milliband..........

For goodness sake, BR - the Milibands grew up in an atheistic and Marxist family. Their father wrote the dullest book ever on the subject of Marxism, but he was certainly not religious in any sense and he certainly wasn't Zionist, and neither are Ed or David, so you're really getting het up about nothing here (if anything 'religious' recently should have caused a controversy, it was Blair's flirtation while PM with Catholicism - because that was technically just as much of an unconstituional move as it would have compromised the doctrine of Parliamentary sovereignty). And if you really think Mandelson was passed over because of either or both his race or sexuality, rather than the fact he's just deeply unpopular, non-ideological, corrupt and, oh yes, barred by a constitutional convention stretching back over a century from being PM because he's now in the House of flipping LORDSas a life peer (!!!!), you must be on something stronger than usual. Give it a rest, eh?

BR wrote:

The UK is a white country and everyone from every race expects a White Christian leader - note that BLAIR did not even risk converting to ROME until after he had retired from UK politics because he knew it would make him unelectable.

Sorry, but that's twisting the truth. The point about religion goes back to the 17th Century break with theocentric politics and the assertion of Parliamentary power. That's why the authority of Catholicism is not tolerated within Parliament, why the Act of Settlement was established and why the great liberal John Locke's defence of religious toleration excluded Catholicism. Nothing to do with race or colour.

Yes Prunella - but I am sure that having Marxist Atheist parents will put off the Churchgoing Christians of the UK and double the pain. No-one wants Marxism in the UK - and with 70% of the UK believing in God that is 70% if the electorate gone already. Unelectable on so many different grounds - even worse than I thought in my original post.

Will the UK ever elect a Jewish - Marxist - Atheist as Prime Minister is the improved question based on your superior knowledge of the Millibands.......

My answer to that is he now has THREE hurdles to winning the election - not just one - with the UK public.

You are right about the Catholic issue - but I never linked it to race at all. This is also the reason why Prince Charles' views make him unacceptable as a King for many Christians in the UK because he does not seem to take the role as Head of the C of E seriously which is still the religion of the majority in the UK.

I dont think the average public or the BBC realise how the majority of people in the UK are still Christian - just because the churches are not packed every Sunday does not mean that - in fact more people attend church than attend ALL the football games on the weekend - and Football is not called the National Game for nothing. The BBC has undermined Christians in the UK for far too long now. Their Marxist - Atheist agenda is coming to fruition with their championing of David Milliband - as their natural leader - but they wont succeed because they have lost the hearts and minds of the UK public by their manipulation of the last election hoping to try and squeeze labour in through the back door by giving them a co-alition with the Liberals when they realised no one would be voting Labour. It back fired because in the end the Liberals realised that the Conservatives were more Liberal than the extremist STASI like policies of New Labour - the Labour of John Smith may well have worked but not the dictatorial Police State policies developed by Blair and deepened by Brown on the UK public.

We need RID of the New Labour project and David Milliband is the heir to Blair with the same failed policies. Brown was just a personal sideshow for Labour. He had no vision and no policies. Milliband has the same aims as Blair had and that is dangerous for the UK and the World. Milliband would plunge us into more Wars against Muslims and possibly outlaw Christianity in the UK ( which the Police were well on their way to do under New Labour ).

We dont need Milliband - let's hope the Labour Unions see sense and back another candidate or they are guilty of another massive mistake after letting Brown take over and destroying the party chances in the last election.

The only reason the Liberals did not come second was some last minute booth conscience voting by Labour supporters who feared they would be letting the Tories in......if people had voted with their feelings then Labour would have won no seats at all in the UK. They are finished unless they change. Milliband is a throwback to the Iraq War and the David Kelly decisions.....he is smarmy and should have challenged Brown before rather than undermining Brown in the hope he could become leader with a free run. Now he is upset his brother wants a piece of the action........how vain and despicable.

Labour are in real trouble because apart from Abbott they are all clones.

BR, sweety, with all due respect, I can't quite figure out if you're being deliberately all over the place or not! First you talk about Miliband being Jewish. Then when I pointed out that Disraeli was and became PM, you changed (or belatedly clarify) your point to being that of Miliband not merely being born to a Jewish mother but also being a follower of the Jewish religion (which he isn't). Then you gleefully accepted a reference to Michael Howerd's ancestral Jewishness as some kind of proof that you're on the right track about anti-semitic politics (but Howerd failed to become PM because he was massively unpopular and his party was in an even worse state than Labour is in now - NOT because he came from Jewish ancestors or was likened to a vampire!). Then you start making all kinds of claims about Zionism, which again is irrelevant as far as the Milibands are concerned. Now you leap on the Marxist background as another problem - which it isn't, as neither boy grew up subscribing to Marxism (although I believe David dabbled with Nietzschean relativism in his late teens), you'd be hard pressed to find any academic or politician in the UK who still seriously does in any conventional sense, and Miliband Snr's old friends have been vocal in their criticism of his two sons for going so far RIGHT since they got into politics. Frankly you seem to be all over the place, apart from really wanting to believe that the Milibands are mad Jewish Zionist zealots (and possibly non-white to boot). You're like the grandmother in that scene in Annie Hall where every time she looks at Alvy Singer he turns into an Hasidic Jew! Why don't you turn your Icke-like eyes in the direction of London Mayor candidate Oona King - female, black and of Jewish extraction. Many happy hours of conspiracy theorising await you!