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We Will Never Forget You (but you will NOT get a public enquiry)
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TOPIC: We Will Never Forget You (but you will NOT get a public enquiry)
#6406
In The Know

We Will Never Forget You (but you will NOT get a public enquiry) 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
... nor will your families get the compensation that they deserve.
 
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#6407
Martin K

That says it all really... 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
...all I can add is financial compensation means nothing to the bereaved in the big picture.
 
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#6419
at what cost? 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
a public enquiry is likely to cost several million pounds.It would also stir up considerable prejudice and hatred against muslims in this country and wouldn't find any answers they don't already have.

It would just result in disappointment for those who want answers and sadly will never get them.
 
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#6425
In The Know

Re:That says it all really... 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Martin

It's the families themselves who want the public enquiry. They want to find answers, and the main one is "Why?" (although anyone with a brain cell already knows the answer to that).

There is also alot of concern over how much the intelligence services actually knew. At least 2 of the bombers were already known to them and had been considered "not peripheral enough" to warrant closer examination. Is a cover-up going on?

We are also told that nothing has actually been done to improve the situation (for example, radios that don't work underground) - so if a similar incident happens (and we are told to expect it) there would be no improvement in the reaction of the emergency services etc.

Governments frequently hold enquiries - into all sorts of matters - but when the biggest bombing campaign since World War 2 hits London, they suddenly don't want to know. WHY?

I appreciate that no amount of compentation can held families of the deceased, but there were many injured (the government don;t actually know how many, and many people simply walked away waiting for a response). Compensation would certainly help them in many ways.
 
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#6431
Martin K

Re:That says it all really... 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Certainly compensation for the inabiltity to work due to trauma is due from somebody.
But is it the government or the bombers or the attackers co-ordinaters?(like that will happen-not)
After watching and listening to the victims on various news services, there must be a good deal of people that will not even use public transport anymore, and probably do not work.
And also a good deal of people that probably went home with more minor injuries and have not even had counselling.
So yes, you win the debate ITK.
There are contingency plans for these attacks, but staff were probably low on that day.
When Bournemouth pier was bombed(1996?), I was personally being restrained by two police officers , one mile from the incident, at the very moment, after having climbed over my babysitters fence, to collect my child, as she had not heard the doorbell.
Another perfect example of an emergency plan.
And yes of course a cover up is going on, but it is unlikely to be revealed, if the powers that be , do not cover up information from time to time, they show incompetance.
 
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#6437
In The Know

Re:That says it all really... 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Hi Martin

Yes it IS the government's responsibility to pay compensation - THEY were the ones that brought bombers to our streets. (Did anyone really expect that we could bomb other countries and their people would do nothing about it?)

This is the REAL reason why the government does not want an inquiry. Everyone knows what the outcome will be and B-Liar does not want to remind people that HE is responsible.

The Bloody Sunday inquiry has now cost over
 
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#6438
what's the cause? 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
ok so two of the would be suicide bombers were known to the police. What should they have done?.ITK, you would be the first to condemn the police for any action taken against any Muslim suspected of being an Al Qaeda member. If they dared to arrest them and hold them under terrorism laws, you'd be talking about the police over reacting, yet here you are saying they should have taken action against the two they knew about.

Had they done so, you'd have had all those money making human rights people shouting about abuse of the community and islamophobia.

Sadly we have to wait until they do blow themselves and (tragically) other people up with them.It would be nice if they just all went into an open field and had a mass suicide but that's wishful thinking.

These are an evil faction of Islam, not representative of the religion at all. They've been terrorising, mutilating, abusing and violating other human beings for centuries all in the name of their religion. (Long before Israel was formed and long before any invasion of islamic countries by the western world). Israel/Iraq/Afghanistan are just yet more bandwagons to jump on as justification for their vile acts of pure sickening depravity against their own religion and others. Ask the Armenians ?


The people who believe in this evil and persuade gullible, brainwashed people to carry it out, are the same people who believe women should be covered from head to foot (or be severely punished usually by a few hundred lashes or being stoned), girls can be married at 9 years old, (and executed for being raped), all homosexuals must be murdered, beating the crap out of your wife (or wives) is perfectly acceptable.

I work with many Muslims and all of them are as sickened by the acts and beliefs of Al Qaeda and its sympathisers as any westerner.

I just can't see a public enquiry proving anything or helping anything as the answers lay with those who trained the 7/7 bombers. No doubt the failed 4 from later in the month might know some answers but we don't dare deprive them of their human rights to get the truth, unlike most Arab states who would have tortured them beyond belief by now.
 
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#6448
In The Know

No wonder you don't understand ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
The 2 suicide bombers were known to the intelligence services. Surveillance could have been kept up. Instead they chose not to - and look at the consequences ! No wonder they don't want in inquiry !

There is a huge difference between keeping an eye on people and invading their homes (and shooting them !) with 250 policemen in the dead of night .... but as you continually support those that consider mass murder quite acceptable (and are currently threatening to murder others unless they get what they want), I'm not surprised that this is beyond your understanding.

As for marriage at 9, some US states (Tennessee and other backwaters?) have had "marriage" at very young ages for years (ask Jerry Lee Lewis !). And as for Gay legislation - the Bush admin are working on that right now !!
 
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#6449
Re:No wonder you don't understand ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
let me quote you

those that consider mass murder quite acceptable (and are currently threatening to murder others unless they get what they want)"

Not sure who you are describing there but since you support the nazi holocaust (when you admit it did actually happen) I'm still several million dead behind you when it comes to support and unlike you I don't live in the past

Get back to your sandy cave and dream of beheading a peace campaigner, go on you know you want to...."
 
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#6468
In The Know

Re:No wonder you don't understand ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Yet again, you revert to type when challenged !

Your belligerence (and threats against those who will not be cowered by you) is quite predictable. Even if we did not know who you support / continually defend - it would be quite easy to work it out.

Interesting question for you ... Who was asked (in 1994) "Can Jews go to Heaven?" He answered "No". (In case you don't know - and that's very likely given that all your "knowledge" seems to consist of newspaper headlines and government press releases) the answer is George W Bush.

Now Google it .... and learn a few facts, rather than the usual very boring, oft-repeated rhetoric.

A little "knowledge" can be very dangerous .....
 
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#6470
the difference in our knowledge.. 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Problem for me ITK is I wasn't born until 1977 so knowledge has to be learned and it can only be learned by reading.Unlike you I don't just read from an Arabic and Nazi Point of view and since you were born in 1889, you have obviously lived through most of it but without worldwide media coverage so of course you'll be a little biased. It must have been fun for you in the 1930s though, being able to massacre so many jews....
 
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#6477
In The Know

Re:the difference in our knowledge.. 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Like I said .... absolutely predictable, and quite inane.
 
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#6479
when it comes to being predictable... 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
you remind me of a scratched 45 going round and round again with the same half sentence. When repeating the same old bigoted crap, remember that NOBODY is interested in anything you have to say (except those other visitors who share your ISP address).

It's like giving a tiny column in a newspaper to somebody who's worked there for 50 years. Nobody reads it as they already know it's out of date and out of touch which is exactly what you are.

By the way get a dictionary and look up the definition of the word "facts". It appears to be your favourite word but only seems to represent your personal opinion and not actual events in history.

In the Know? more like In the Gutter....
 
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#6482
In The Know

So, so predictable ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Godbye Mr Macca-burg

Everyone can see through your bigotted rhetoric ...deny the truth at all costs and "sell" the Jews propaganda !
 
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#6483
Maccaburg

Re:So, so predictable ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Look at that propaganda, so shabby...come see my brother Reuben, he'll make propaganda for you twice as good at half the price my boy!
 
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#6493
In The Know

Re:So, so predictable ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
I may have to pawn something to afford it !
 
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#6495
Maccaburg

Re:So, so predictable ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
I have some gold and paintings somewhere in Switzerland, shall we split the profits?
 
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#6517
In The Know

Re:So, so predictable ! 17 Years, 9 Months ago  
Not like you to do a deal .... will it involve giving up some of my land?
 
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