The words "grasping at straws" keep crossing my mind.

WTF do you know about the facts that make you say that

I'm with ITK on this BB - if the police, who we know from personal experience are corrupt and lazy and will try to get a conviction no matter what, cannot charge someone like him after 3 days of torture, it tends to imply he's totally innocent.

Remember that poor girl in Walton Milly Dowler? They never found her killer and are now doing the standard, expected thing - charging an already locked up for life killer (likely in return for prison bonuses) so they can mark their books "case solved".

I became staggered by the complete incompetence of our police, and the shoring up process provided by the legal system.
And the media backing up the process so our generally stupid public can rest easy in their beds knowing the bad guys are all locked up.

Until they themselves are murdered, of course. And then their families and loved ones will almost universally believe the police are getting it right and will say (like Joanna Yeates parents) - "we are certain they got the right killer"... easily fooled - they want to be fooled - it brings "closure".

I'm with JK and ITK. This investigation seems increasingly wiffy.

The police know very little about the circumstances of this particular killing, and could not possibly have investigated all aspects thoroughly enough to justify an arrest. Their behaviour fits the more usual strategy of building a case around a target individual.

A good analogy would the approach to a piece of academic or research work. The proper and valid way to do it is to read around the subject and collect all the data, consider it, and then draw conclusions. It is unsound to decide at the outset what conclusion is desired and then search only for evidence that supports this, ignoring (or hiding) any contradictory data that might be happened upon. Yet, this is the police methodology that we see revealed in cases - particularly those that are overturned - time and again. Desmond Uttley, Sean Hodgson, Stefan Kiszko and of course JK are all good examples.

Blue Boy wrote:
WTF do you know about the facts that make you say that

BB you are getting very predictable and extremely boring !

You challenged my assertion that Hanratty was innocent - till I provided overwhelming evidence.

The landlord is 100% innocent. There is no way he could have concealed the evidence if he had killed her in the flats and transported her because they have ALL his belongings. He is obviously an academic and has no interest in women at all - and he does not look like he could throttle someone to death, If anything at 65 he would have been more likely a victim.

A much younger person did this.......

The Police are lazy and they tried to stitch this man up to save themselves time - but now realise that he is too clever and has an alibi in any case to get stitched up by their devious methods. Sion Jenkins sadly was intellectually far inferior. The Police really love stitching up teachers - it is their main aim in the job as I have said many many times before. The Police hate Taachers and they hate Christians and Muslims.

I know nothing of the facts but my sixth sense tells me the whole thing is a beat-up and the 'landlord' will be quietly dropped from investigations (if he hasn't been already)

that's a guarantee.

like all my predictions..spot on

Yeah must agree with most on here - after 3 days of sleep deprivation, lack of food and comfort and so forth, to not be able to charge him shows that the Police - again - have been grasping at straws. As for DNA evidence, given that this woman had spent time with him, of course they would have find DNA evidence of her being in his flat, and likewise his DNA in hers?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343462...personal-safety.html

Had the boyfriend not had the alibi he had, no doubt he would have been first to be arrested. After all they take confiscate his mobile phone and laptop straight away.

SJB wrote:
I'm with JK and ITK. This investigation seems increasingly wiffy.

The police know very little about the circumstances of this particular killing, and could not possibly have investigated all aspects thoroughly enough to justify an arrest. Their behaviour fits the more usual strategy of building a case around a target individual.

Police issue "fresh" warning to women in Bristol area -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12105327

Is this the closest that we will get to an admission that they now realise they have been talking to the wrong man ?

Police have now admitted killer is still at large. So Landlord seems to have been counted out. Boyfriend must have a cast iron alibi because he would have been number one suspect in something like this.

The boyfriend was 150 or so miles away in Sheffield.

JK wrote - "...cannot charge someone like him after 3 days of torture"
Without being there or having someone associated with the case, making an accusation of torture is a very fanciful claim.

BR wrote - "...and he does not look like he could throttle someone to death"
So what's the tell tale signs, his eyes too close together?

BR wrote - "The Police hate teachers and they hate Christians and Muslims"
The poor man didn't stand a chance did he?

In the Know wrote - "You challenged my assertion that Hanratty was innocent - till I provided overwhelming evidence"
You didn't provide overwhelming evidence, what you did was put forward was one side of an old argument. Hanratty may be innocent but the the courts looked at the evidence and twice concluded Hanratty was guilty. The case is now going to a second appeal so I think the facts are a little more complicated than the way you have presented them.

In the Know wrote - "BB you are getting very predictable and extremely boring!"
You are probably right, best then I don't challenge any opinions except the one that says everyone is innocent and the police are always wrong. I apologise for being so boring and will go back to being a lurker.

In The Know wrote:
The words "grasping at straws" keep crossing my mind.

Today's words are "STILL grasping at straws" !

Police launch Facebook campaign to catch killer -
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12112077

Obviously an inquiry like this will take some time, but I would have slightly more sympathy for the police had they not rushed to arrest someone (and then apply for an extention of detention) clearly without a shred of evidence, and before they had done the basics.

I reckon a certain landlord will eventually clean up in the libel courts.

the reporting has been quite loony.

Blue hair indeed! My friend Tommy is quite upset.

BR wrote:
The landlord is 100% innocent. There is no way he could have concealed the evidence if he had killed her in the flats and transported her because they have ALL his belongings. He is obviously an academic and has no interest in women at all - and he does not look like he could throttle someone to death, If anything at 65 he would have been more likely a victim.

A much younger person did this.......

The Police are lazy and they tried to stitch this man up to save themselves time - but now realise that he is too clever and has an alibi in any case to get stitched up by their devious methods. Sion Jenkins sadly was intellectually far inferior. The Police really love stitching up teachers - it is their main aim in the job as I have said many many times before. The Police hate Taachers and they hate Christians and Muslims.

Prunella Minge wrote:


Another news conference this morning at 9.30 ... they are feeling the pressure.

We'd better not pressure them too much otherwise they may "solve" the case
(Barry George doesn't live in that area by and chance, does he?)

Today's astonishing announcement ?

<<<"Detectives investigating the murder of Jo Yeates have said her body was missing a sock when it was found near Bristol.

The sock is described as a long, ski-style sock and is size five". >>>

They are good, these detectives, aren't they?
I wonder if they worked out the description of the missing sock by looking at the remaining one ?