Stooopids are saying "Gadaffi is killing women and children; we must arm the opposition so they can kill women and children too'. Or something like that.

a report today on the BBC world service...outrage that Gadaffis sons have been obtaining degrees and such at respected British institutions after generous donations (the way it usually works)

One whose name I failed to grasp claimed it was shocling that dictators's were being wined and dined at venerable institutions.

Why ?

last year or so T.Blair warmly embraced Gadaffi and everything was A OK as Britsh firms sold him millions of pounds of weapons to shoot his subjects with.

Polticians heads miust be spinnig around like Linda Blairs.

They don't know who to support. This years pal is tomorrow's enemy.

Personally i would have sent an assasin in years agpo to put a bullet in Gadaffi's head. Dictators are OK if they spread the wealth but he's no different to Murbarack and the other vile creatures who stash the wealth they don't own in Swiss banks.

Idiot politicians of course claim "he keeps the place on a steady keel and it suits us".

If these dicatators weren't there -in their place there may (or may not) have been 'democracies'. Now they all just hate our guts.

Well Veritas - the buzz in North Africa has been for 30 years that the standard of living for the poorest in Libya was far above that in other states and all the pictures I've seen show none of the slums and poverty in even the richest other states. Clearly there's far less "freedom" but it appears millions like the regime - how dare we interfere with the internal affairs of the country? How would we feel if Libya had armed protesters in the UK and aided them with air strikes when they protested against the ban on fox hunting?

JK2006 wrote:
but it appears millions like the regime

How can you justify that JR ?

Anyone who "doesn't" like the regime gets shot !

So the media tells us ITK but I don't entirely trust the media.
I don't trust Gaddafi either but I bet you, if the "rebels" win, they will be butchering off any women and children they can get their hands on.

agreed JK..Lybia's standard was above that of others..similar to Iraq under Saddam Hussein which now has little hope of recovering.

I don't think anyone would actually care who ran the joint if they got to share in the wealth and those waging war in Lybia are likely to be disappointed.

The situaltion also reeks of manipulation. Popular uprisings just don't get off the ground as they did in Egypt without years of planning.

There are always rebel forces fighting for usually decades.

This is being maniuplated..I reckon the US for all it's poeturing is securing the oil fields and placing others like Saudi Arabia on notice.

Something will break in Lybia-when the most powerful army chiefs turns on Gaddaffi (after getting the right signals from the CIA) it will be over for him.

The fact Obama is out of the loop almost confirms that.

I still say cosseting these creatrures for years as the US & UK do is the main problem.

Assasination squads all roubnd I say !

veritas wrote:
I still say cosseting these creatrures for years as the US & UK do is the main problem.

Not just cossetting them - but in many cases either putting them in place initially or "facilitating" their "success".

As I've said before - if you deal with the Devilbe prepared for the consequences.

John Major is talking alot of sense -

He predicted the unrest across the region would have "very far reaching ramifications".

"I think there will be reforms and parliaments, perhaps, will get more power. We can be certain there will be change, and in next five or 10 years the world will look different from the way it looks today."

He said the world would regret it if Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's leadership is allowed to continue and warned of "many bloody reprisals".

"I wonder firstly what that does for the prestige of the rest of the world. I wonder what that does to encourage other would-be dictators to believe they can act in the same sort of way elsewhere.

"And I wonder how we would feel if nothing is done when we see the extent and the scale of the reprisals that this vengeful man will undoubtedly enact afterwards."

"What has happened has been a grassroots revolution, led by young people, inspired by the internet and Facebook and social networking, and satellite television, of course.

"It is against political and economic matters. There's been no flag burning, no Islamist slogans. Indeed, terrorist bodies like al Qaeda have seemed almost irrelevant and may prove so in the future.

"Why should people join terror groups, if peace for action by the mass of the population can change governments in the way we have seen? I think there are a lot of very long-term implications of what has happened that we have not begun to examine yet."

A telling comment on the BBC World Service today from an Iranian who is part of the group that have taken over the Gaddafi house in Hampstead..

he was a student who rebelled and helped oust the Shah of Iran (after the CIA withdrew their support) only to have his hopes dashed when hardline Islamic extremists took over..

the webs we weave and all that !!!