I am coming around to the idea that the "Idiot Riots" of this summer were pre-meditated by the state, and deliberately allowed to spread. The policing was deliberately ineffectual in order to garner public support from the unwise into the "final stage" of the surrender of our basic civil rights - mainly by frightening the "good people" and making out that any form of rioting is basically the 'underclass' waging war on the taxpayers.
So now we are entering the age were any mass protest can be labelled criminal hooliganism (helped there of course by plain-clothed plants stitched into the crowds), were the point of such is now over-ridden by "public interest" and the typing of simple words into a phone and computers can be deemed "incitement" and result in instant prison sentences.
In actual fact, here in the UK there is a lot to protest and even riot about - the price of fuel, the state of Parliament, Police Corruption etc - but it is all becoming stamped on in a way that mirrors many 'non-democratic' regimes we are intent on invading.

Well done the people of the UK - you appear to be all fucking idiots, and far more stupid than any of the in-bred riotters who did their bit for increased state control the other week. I need to get the fuck outta Dodge, and soon....

Disgraceful that a government including supposed Liberals has got us into this mess!
The only thing the Libs needed to do was concentrate on civil liberties,and they can't even get that right!!

Plus keep us out of a war like they pretended to do with Iraq (when they had no power). I'm never voting Lib Dem again.

governments use agent provocateurs all the time.

The Lib Dems are over as a party.

Most liberals at their core are deeply conservative. This is something I've noticed quite some time ago. Don't let their feel-good but empty rhetoric about human rights fool you. They care about political correctness way more than they care about any rights. They think calling someone a raghead is worse than dropping bombs on a country that is predominately muslim. They think they can create equality and democracy through war and oppressive laws. Believe me, if you don't already now, but most liberals are not your friend.

TED wrote:
Most liberals at their core are deeply conservative. This is something I've noticed quite some time ago. Don't let their feel-good but empty rhetoric about human rights fool you. They care about political correctness way more than they care about any rights. They think calling someone a raghead is worse than dropping bombs on a country that is predominately muslim. They think they can create equality and democracy through war and oppressive laws. Believe me, if you don't already now, but most liberals are not your friend.

do you really think so ??

I reckon the hard left (me) opposed the Iraq illegal invasion ( as did a good many conservatives).

I'm fairly confused these days about 'political correction"..I reckon it's been hijacked just as the wimmin's movement has.