david wrote:
Innocent Accused wrote:
There seems to be a lot of interesting info leaking out about his dealings,can't say it's going to help him come back onboard anytime soon.

Indeed- this piece in the Guardian will make uncomfortable reading for all concerned.

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/16/adam-werritty-liam-fox-pargav

Is it me,or are politicians all w@nkers?

It's also a bit sad that those parties and newspapers most eager to style themselves as the sworn enemies of homophobia still seem to get very excited when there are any 'gay' rumours to sensationalise. It's a bit like that in LA - everyone wears the right coloured ribbons in their lapels and then, behind the scenes, they bury the careers of anyone with the 'wrong' sexuality. It's the 21st Century and we've not moved on much.

david wrote:
True JK, but I think it's still right that he has gone.

Werrity has been travelling around with Fox extensively acting as if he were an official advisor. Indeed some foreign dignitaries have said they thought he was an official, and that is serious, because in that case they may well have divulged things to him that they would not otherwise have done. Therefore compromising confidentiality and potentiality national security.

The important question is: if Fix wanted Werrity on board, why did he not appoint him officially? The answer is obviously that he wouldn't have got past the vetting process as he has vested interests in the defence industry which is obviously a big no-no. So what did Fox do, just 'appoint' him anyway - that has to raise serious questions.

Werrity was going around with the House of Commons port cluis embossed on his 'business cards' when he is nothing to do with the government or parliament. This obviously misleads people into thinking he is an offical.

Fox had Werrity paid by vested interest groups. Having someone in the inner circles of a vital ministry who is paid exclusively by lobby groups is wrong.

At best bad judgement; at worst.... who knows?

Indeed, david.

As this is the Minister of Defence ... when the full truth comes out then it could be as bad as Profumo.

Innocent Accused wrote:
I thought you were about facts ITK, so where are these polls?

Here -

Despite the parlous state of the British economy and the government's chaotic NHS reforms, Tory support is down just 1 point since the general election (35 per cent), with Labour just 2 points ahead on 37 per cent. Support for the Tories has recovered since the height of the phone-hacking scandal in July, when backing for the party slumped to 32 per cent.

Significantly, even though the economy has grown by just 0.2 per cent over the past nine months (compared to 2.1 per cent over the previous nine), the Tories are still rated as the party with the best economic policies: 33 per cent say Cameron's party has the "best policies for managing the economy", a 10-point lead over Labour.

Net satisfaction with Cameron has fallen from +31 in June 2010 to -13, but the Prime Minister remains more popular than Ed Miliband, whose satisfaction rating is -16.

Worryingly for Miliband, personal approval ratings are often a better long-term indicator of the next election result than voting intentions. Labour frequently led the Tories under Neil Kinnock, for instance, but Kinnock was never rated above John Major.

Cameron is also more popular with Conservative supporters than Miliband is with Labour supporters. While 78 per cent of Tory supporters are satisfied with Cameron's performance (18 per cent are dissatisfied), 52 per cent of Labour supporters are satisfied with Miliband's (34 per cent are dissatisfied). Until these begin to shift, it is far from certain that Labour will achieve its ambition to be a one-term opposition.

www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2011/10/labour-cameron-party

Like I said ... Labour cannot win under Milliband.

In Scotland - Labour's "heartland" - it is even more worrying for them -

"Mr Miliband's lack of impact will be a grave concern to the party as it struggles to regain the political initiative after its narrow defeat in the 2010 UK general election and its disastrous defeat in the 2011 Holyrood election.

For Labour the poll shows Scottish voters have the lowest confidence in Ed Miliband of anywhere in the UK outside of the South of England. He enjoys lower popularity than even the Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron".

www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scotti...ts-than-cameron.html

In The Know wrote:
Innocent Accused wrote:
I thought you were about facts ITK, so where are these polls?

Here -

Despite the parlous state of the British economy and the government's chaotic NHS reforms, Tory support is down just 1 point since the general election (35 per cent), with Labour just 2 points ahead on 37 per cent. Support for the Tories has recovered since the height of the phone-hacking scandal in July, when backing for the party slumped to 32 per cent.

Significantly, even though the economy has grown by just 0.2 per cent over the past nine months (compared to 2.1 per cent over the previous nine), the Tories are still rated as the party with the best economic policies: 33 per cent say Cameron's party has the "best policies for managing the economy", a 10-point lead over Labour.

Net satisfaction with Cameron has fallen from +31 in June 2010 to -13, but the Prime Minister remains more popular than Ed Miliband, whose satisfaction rating is -16.

Worryingly for Miliband, personal approval ratings are often a better long-term indicator of the next election result than voting intentions. Labour frequently led the Tories under Neil Kinnock, for instance, but Kinnock was never rated above John Major.

Cameron is also more popular with Conservative supporters than Miliband is with Labour supporters. While 78 per cent of Tory supporters are satisfied with Cameron's performance (18 per cent are dissatisfied), 52 per cent of Labour supporters are satisfied with Miliband's (34 per cent are dissatisfied). Until these begin to shift, it is far from certain that Labour will achieve its ambition to be a one-term opposition.

www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2011/10/labour-cameron-party

Like I said ... Labour cannot win under Milliband.

In Scotland - Labour's "heartland" - it is even more worrying for them -

"Mr Miliband's lack of impact will be a grave concern to the party as it struggles to regain the political initiative after its narrow defeat in the 2010 UK general election and its disastrous defeat in the 2011 Holyrood election.

For Labour the poll shows Scottish voters have the lowest confidence in Ed Miliband of anywhere in the UK outside of the South of England. He enjoys lower popularity than even the Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron".

www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scotti...ts-than-cameron.html

Just one thing u forgot ITK

'Have you seen the Opinion polls recently ?
An election now would return a resounding Tory victory.'

Still doesn't fit your comment....a 2% labour lead is hardly a resounding tory victory
Move on ITK,I'm sure you have better things to do here than dig a hole,Veritas actually missed you....although he won't admit it in public

I see Intheknow has gone from immaginary opinion polls to sick pictures of gang murder!