www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15284264

They should rein this in asap, they will lose support if they don't, but to be fair, which "winning" army did not carry out such abuses (and massacres) ?

The frustration of 43 years of repression.

Anyone remember the shocking stories about the British / US troops after the first Gulf War ?

We should keep this in perspective -

from Reuters -

"In the "Number Two" neighbourhood (of Sirte), government forces found 25 corpses wrapped in plastic sheets. They accused pro-Gaddafi militias of carrying out execution-style killings.

Five corpses shown to a Reuters team wore civilian clothes and had their hands tied behind their backs and gunshot wounds to the head.

"There are about 25 innocent people with their hands tied. There is no humanity. It's sad," said NTC commander Salem al Fitouri standing besides the corpses, which he said had been there for at least five days.

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uk.reuters.com/article/2011/10/13/uk-lib...dUKTRE79B2EJ20111013

There is much which never makes the main headlines. Many wrongs on all sides.

Numerous reports have emerged from civilians who have managed to flee Sirte in recent days about NATO bombs destroying homes and other civilian buildings and infrastructure.

Ashiq Hussein, an immigrant Pakistani electrician who escaped with 11 of his family members, told AFP: “NATO struck one big building, Imarat Tamim, two days ago, with 12 or 13 bombs. The whole building with nearly 600 flats is razed to the ground now... Two of my neighbours died yesterday in a NATO bomb which hit their home. Maybe they have information that on rooftops there were Gaddafi men... But a lot of civilian buildings were getting hit. Also the incoming shells from NTC forces were hitting civilian homes.”


On Saturday, NTC chief Mustafa Abdel Jalil announced a two-day “humanitarian” ceasefire, supposedly to allow more civilians to evacuate. Yet the attack on Sirte’s hospital occurred during this so-called ceasefire, while journalists on the city’s outskirts reported no let up in the militias’ indiscriminate mortar and rocket fire. On Saturday, according to AFP, two children and two adults were killed when their vehicle, which was leaving Sirte, was hit by a rocket, apparently fired by NTC militia. The children “were torn to pieces,” Dr Ahmed Abu Oud, a field medic on the western side of Sirte, said. “They collected the body parts in bags.”

The declared “ceasefire”—which was accepted as good coin by much of the US and European media—was clearly motivated by propaganda considerations. NATO and NTC forces are preparing their alibis for the civilian killings for which they will be responsible in the final offensive on Sirte. Having supposedly given time for civilians to flee, all those left in the city will be regarded as legitimate targets by NTC fighters.


www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26927

Sounds a very suspect report to me ... who the hell are "global research" ?

You should not believe all you read - even when what you read is telling you what you want to hear !!!!

In The Know wrote:

You should not believe all you read - even when what you read is telling you what you want to hear !!!!

I never do ... but I don't just dismiss the stories I don't like either. In a fair trial I listen to all the evidence.

Pumpkinhead wrote:
In a fair trial I listen to all the evidence.

... even though some comes from very suspect sources !

Gloabal Research -

Ah, now I see ... its describes itself as a "World Socialist website" !

You should stick to the real world ... and the real media, lad ! You'll be quoting the Socialist Worker's economic policy next !!!!

In The Know wrote:
Gloabal Research -

Ah, now I see ... its describes itself as a "World Socialist website" !

You should stick to the real world ... and the real media, lad ! You'll be quoting the Socialist Worker's economic policy next !!!!


Actually, that is a link to another website. But that aside .. I still say we should listen to ALL the evidence, fairly .. even if some comes from seeming suspect sources.

In The Know wrote:
Gloabal Research -

Ah, now I see ... its describes itself as a "World Socialist website" !

You should stick to the real world ... and the real media, lad ! You'll be quoting the Socialist Worker's economic policy next !!!!

Perhaps u could point him in the direction of the opinion polls u claim proved 'a resounding Tory victory'? U being such an expert on reliable facts