angel wrote:
Er, my comment was directed at Pattaya. Keep up. What Has other posters involvement in false allegations got to do with anything? Please refrain from telling me how to post my opinions. Its really none of your business.

Glad to know I have decent friends on here.
Funny how you keep telling others to mind their own business,but you butt in willy nilly.
Now answer this please,LO found a good example of you contradicting yourself on matters of this type,yet you ignored it,didn't comment at all...why?

If you want people to refrain from posting negative comments about ITK then the only way that will happen is by dealing with the cause,not the effect.Till then you may continue to be the butt of others indignation.
Have a good day

veritas meant to say:
I think we should all accept every poster no matter what they say (especially people like ITK who is usually proved right !)

For instance In The Know is possibly my very favourite poster because (a) who makes me look even far more intelligent than I am) and (b) he's our very own intelligent stateman !

ITK blushes !!!!

If we didn't have ITK we would have to invent him

Impossible, veritas !

david wrote:

ITK I agree that it has to be a good thing that a mass-murdering tyrant has gone. You mentioned Blair and Brown- you are of course right, but I'm pretty convinced that Cameron would also have continued to support Ghadaffi if the worm hadn't turned. Don't you think so?

Yes, david, I do.
Thank you for raising the subject ... I would also like to know why our former leader, the Great B-Liar, has made SIX trips to see Gaddafi since he (B-Liar) left office in 2007. Apparently 2 of those trips were in private jets (ah, he does like his private jets, doesn't he?) paid for by the Gaddafi regime.

What kind of "deal" are we not being told about ?
Does it have anything to do with why Moussa Koussa was allowed to slip into Britain (when he knew the game was over in Libya) and then slip quietly out again ?
(According to Panorama - see tomorrow BBC 1 - he's now living in 5-star luxury in Qatar).

And let's not forget that Cameron and his like are, as we speak, actively supporting regimes that are equally as brutal as Ghadaffi's, and we do so because it is in our 'interest' to do so, either strategically or because they have oil.

One at a time, david !
One at a time !

Would you agree that Cameron and Sarkozy did not act out of purely humanitarian intent?

I doubt that ANY politician ever has acted entirely out of humanitarian intent ... but whatever the reason I'm glad that we "stepped up to the mark" and stopped Gaddafi's 42 rein of terror.

You also (conveniently?) forget, that both Sarkosy and Cameron will have to answer for their actions - when they face voters (something that never seemed to bother Gaddafi) !

You say that the Libyan people's suffering has ended- let's hope so, but no one can know

I think we can ...
There may (and probably will) be troubles ahead ... but they will NOT be anywhere near as bad as the systematic torture and brutal murder Gaddafi inflicted on ANYONE who got in his way, surely?

I feel quite certain that other despotic tyrants dont sleep quite so easily in their beds since they saw what happened to Saddam, Gaddafi (and soon, hopefully) Assad !

Solihull Exile (talking to Angel) wrote:
You on the other hand seem to be getting the same dose of 'selective amnesia' afflicting ITK!
Take a look at the replies,you've not got any support on this one,move on,go back to posting as you used to,not making a fool out of yourself as seems to be increasingly the case recently.

Angel -

I'm organising the ITK fan club convention - your ticket is on its way !

Unfortunately we will have to meet in a phonebox - I was going to book the Convention Centre but apparently some little cabal has already booked a meeting there, sorry !

Locked Out wrote:
angel wrote:
Please refrain from telling me how to post my opinions. Its really none of your business.

But angel...

You're asking people to refrain from posting their opinions. And it's really none of your business to make a judgment call on the motivations of those opinions. Need I remind you once again on what you had to say about the criticism of other peoples' opinions only a few short months ago?

I am all for a fair discussion and opinions but when it comes to point scoring by petty means it takes away from the subject matter. To suggest some on here have no friends etc. Is it really necessary?

Innocent Accused wrote:
angel wrote:
Er, my comment was directed at Pattaya. Keep up. What Has other posters involvement in false allegations got to do with anything? Please refrain from telling me how to post my opinions. Its really none of your business.

Glad to know I have decent friends on here.
Funny how you keep telling others to mind their own business,but you butt in willy nilly.
Now answer this please,LO found a good example of you contradicting yourself on matters of this type,yet you ignored it,didn't comment at all...why?

If you want people to refrain from posting negative comments about ITK then the only way that will happen is by dealing with the cause,not the effect.Till then you may continue to be the butt of others indignation.
Have a good day

I have answered LO, IA and again you are jumping to conclusions. I have a life outside of these threads so apologies for the time taken in response. Just read you're last sentence, it's all about point scoring. Bash on if you find ITK offensive i'm bored with all this now. I've got more important things to worry about.

angel wrote:
To suggest some on here have no friends etc. Is it really necessary?

The ones who have no friends, angel are the ones permanently on this board !

Locked Out wrote:
This is a pathetic line of discussion and I wish it would stop.

ITK, you probably post here more than anyone else. At the very least you are extremely high up the list of most prolific contributors. If you have loads of friends I'd suggest that you spend more time here than most anyway.

Angel, thank you for addressing my post. I'd remind you, however, that you have been guilty yourself of what you are complaining about in others. Your references to "winkers" was as infantile as anything else I've seen here. ITK, too, is culpable, or maybe you missed his suggestion that my parents were toilet attendants. We've all been guilty of uncalled for rudeness. To make fish of one and fowl of another is disingenuous.

I think it's time we all stopped it.

A very good final word LO,sure all of us can be guilty of 'selective amnesia',me included

Innocent Accused wrote:
Locked Out wrote:
This is a pathetic line of discussion and I wish it would stop.

ITK, you probably post here more than anyone else. At the very least you are extremely high up the list of most prolific contributors. If you have loads of friends I'd suggest that you spend more time here than most anyway.

Angel, thank you for addressing my post. I'd remind you, however, that you have been guilty yourself of what you are complaining about in others. Your references to "winkers" was as infantile as anything else I've seen here. ITK, too, is culpable, or maybe you missed his suggestion that my parents were toilet attendants. We've all been guilty of uncalled for rudeness. To make fish of one and fowl of another is disingenuous.

I think it's time we all stopped it.

A very good final word LO,sure all of us can be guilty of 'selective amnesia',me included

Agreed. Group hug!!!?

At last some sense.

angel wrote:
Innocent Accused wrote:
Locked Out wrote:
This is a pathetic line of discussion and I wish it would stop.

ITK, you probably post here more than anyone else. At the very least you are extremely high up the list of most prolific contributors. If you have loads of friends I'd suggest that you spend more time here than most anyway.

Angel, thank you for addressing my post. I'd remind you, however, that you have been guilty yourself of what you are complaining about in others. Your references to "winkers" was as infantile as anything else I've seen here. ITK, too, is culpable, or maybe you missed his suggestion that my parents were toilet attendants. We've all been guilty of uncalled for rudeness. To make fish of one and fowl of another is disingenuous.

I think it's time we all stopped it.

A very good final word LO,sure all of us can be guilty of 'selective amnesia',me included

Agreed. Group hug!!!?

Prefer the hug to the buggering from Veritas!

My take is simple,I've watched ITK since the old board 6 years ago.He's a bully when things don't go his way.some like Angel see no harm in it,others like myself take offence and reply back.ITK never really got what makes this place tick,Angel did.Now the funny situation is that slowly ITK is learning.while Angel seems to forget.

So I would recommend Angel to try to judge the bigger picture before taking action.If ITK is being rude then try to be seen as neutral,not one sided,better still leave the modding to the boss,it'll all get sorted in the end.But hopefully ITK has learnt his lesson,and will try to be a positive contributor,not a point scorer in future.

Sermon over,back to work I go