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#79089
In The Know

Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Ed Miliband has hit back at critics of his leadership, insisting he has a "very clear plan" that will restore public confidence in Labour.

Labour peer Lord Glasman, who has advised him in the past, complained this week Labour appeared to have "no strategy, no narrative and little energy".

Under Mr Miliband, the Opposition "show no signs of winning the economic argument", he added.

from - news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16144163

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Four out of five Labour members have rated his (Miliband's) performance as average to very poor, according to a survey by the website LabourList which represents grassroot supporters.

Lord Glasman also specifically criticised Labour's economic record - and said the party has not done enough to distance itself from the past.

He said: "Endogenous growth, flexible labour-market reform, free movement of labour, the dominance of the City of London - it was all crap, and we need to say so.

"Old faces from the Brown era still dominate the shadow Cabinet and they seem stuck in defending Labour's record in all the wrong ways. We didn't spend too much money, we'll cut less fast and less far, but we can't tell you how."

from - news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16142774
 
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#79091
andrew

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Labour has lost it's way even the Labour MP's have lost faith in Millipede. His racist like Abbott, how can anyone get confused with Blockbusters with Blackbusters it's not a typo the millipede wanted to be racist ? O and A are miles apart on a keyboard same as on a phone. He won't even sack Abbott due to racial comments she made about cab drivers and Britain invented racism. I just remembered blacks aren't racist according to law, media and government.
 
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#79092
veritas

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
the 'controversy' over Abbott is rubbish and should be ignored.

Lord Glasman has identified the problem which isn't Milibrand. It's the old guard who (Noo Labour) are still there and pushing the same agenda.

He will still be there in be in 6 months and sadly, so will Cameron.

stop clutching at straws ITK.(and quote more credible sources than Sky)
 
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#79094
Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
I think Milliband is shockingly bad. A poor orator, shades of Blair in mannerisms and demeanour and zero charisma/personality. Labour desperately need someone who is going to spark something within the voters as the Tories flounder in the polls and appear to have very few answers in how to deal with this recession other than beat up on the poor.
 
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#79096
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
The Fat Controller wrote:
I think Milliband is shockingly bad. A poor orator, shades of Blair in mannerisms and demeanour and zero charisma/personality. Labour desperately need someone who is going to spark something within the voters as the Tories flounder in the polls and appear to have very few answers in how to deal with this recession other than beat up on the poor.

Yep, FC - all Miliband does is keep the same bunch that deny the meltdown was anything to their ludicrous spending (but are unable to say why the IMF is always needed when we've had a loony Labour government !!!).

According to Labour the way to pay off your credit card is to pay it off slower (ignoring the fact that that will rack up huge interet payments) !!!!
 
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
The Fat Controller wrote:
I think Milliband is shockingly bad. A poor orator, shades of Blair in mannerisms and demeanour and zero charisma/personality. Labour desperately need someone who is going to spark something within the voters as the Tories flounder in the polls and appear to have very few answers in how to deal with this recession other than beat up on the poor.

Yep, FC - all Miliband does is keep the same bunch that deny the meltdown was anything to their ludicrous spending (but are unable to say why the IMF is always needed when we've had a loony Labour government !!!).

According to Labour the way to pay off your credit card is to pay it off slower (ignoring the fact that that will rack up huge interet payments) !!!!


Pains me to say it,but yes Labour and Milliband are complete jokes.
Labour need to look tough,Balls would be perfect,if not for the name!
 
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#79109
andrew

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
ITK your spot on again.
 
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#79115
Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Ed's last tweet )as of this post)

"Sad to hear that Bob Holness has died. A generation will remember him fondly from Blockbusters."

I'm very sorry, as sad as it is, it shouldn't be his main tweet of the weekend. I mean FFS!!! Is that it Ed? Is that the fucking best you can do?

Britain is on the verge of something cataclysmic...massive unemployment, homelessness on the increase, the economy up shit creek without the proverbials, increasing tensions within Europe, lost battles and causes in the Middle East...

The big nosed cretin!
 
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#79118
veritas

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
the thread perfectly illustrates the state of current politics.

it's all about personalities.
 
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andrew

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#79141
Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
It's always been in part about personalities, and images - even Lincoln grew a beard after someone told him he would be better liked. Miliband IS partly the problem - he's blatantly out of his depth as leader - but obviously there are much deeper problems, in terms of policy and strategy, that will remain after he's gone. After Blair drained the party of most of its ideological character, the post-Blair figures seem to think they can just go back to being 'real(ish)' Labour, but, understandably, few in the country know what on earth that now is. They need to rediscover their bedrock support, then develop a programme to engage with and appeal to the broader population. That can't even start until Ed goes back to whatever university debating society from which he came.
 
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#79172
OldPoster

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Milliband is just a more obvious wanker than the rest!
 
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#79173
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Solihull Exile wrote:
Pains me to say it,but yes Labour and Milliband are complete jokes.
Labour need to look tough,Balls would be perfect,if not for the name!


Are you serious?
Balls is old school - and was Brown's assistant when Britain was being driven down the drain !!!!!!!
He's constantly refused to accept that we need to cut anything - just go on spending and to hell with the consequences !!!!
 
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#79174
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
andrew wrote:
ITK your spot on again.

Miliband -
I see the re-launch ... that isnt a re-launch !!! ... is being held today.
 
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
andrew wrote:
Veritas you been reading the The Sun. www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/polit...is-more-popular.html

LABOUR leader Ed Miliband's poll ratings have hit an all-time low — with voters saying even Deputy PM Nick Clegg is doing a better job.
Only 20 per cent think Mr Miliband is doing his job well — down from 28 per cent last month.

In contrast, 21 per cent believe Mr Clegg is doing a good job, according to a YouGov poll for The Sunday Times. The number who say Mr Miliband is doing a bad job shot up from 59 per cent to a record 66 per cent in the last month.

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How about that for an achievement !
Unpopular - even when you cannot think of a single policy to offend people with !

I said it would all come right for the LibDems .... by the time of the next election the (Labour's) debt will have been re-paid and we can start reqarding the workers (the ones who actually go to work !!!) again.
 
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#79177
Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
Can't stand any of them. I shall never vote again. Democracy doesn't work.
 
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#79194
andrew

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
I'm not even on the electoral roll.
 
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#79197
veritas

Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
ITK..you appear ..just like everyone else (including the politicians) to believe personalities matter and not policy.

That's how the Diane Abbott non controversy becomes something that should matter.

I vote according to whatever policy is presented and whether I can trust that to be implemented. If it isn't I punish them at the next election.

Any current Labour leader would be mad not too hold onto his position as he will surely be the next PM ( when the Clegg & Co are demolished) even if only be default.

And just because a leader may not be particularly popular does not mean party will not be. Opposition leaders at this stage rarely have much support as the ruling party gets all the publicity.

Give it another 18 months.

and as I say...thus it will happen !!
 
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#79216
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
veritas wrote:
I vote according to whatever policy is presented and whether I can trust that to be implemented.

... well that's the end of votes for (loony) Labour then (as they dont have any policies and who would trust them if they did???) !!!!!
 
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Re:Ed Miliband - gone by Easter ? 12 Years, 4 Months ago  
veritas wrote:
ITK..you appear ..just like everyone else (including the politicians) to believe personalities matter and not policy.

That's how the Diane Abbott non controversy becomes something that should matter.

I vote according to whatever policy is presented and whether I can trust that to be implemented. If it isn't I punish them at the next election.

Any current Labour leader would be mad not too hold onto his position as he will surely be the next PM ( when the Clegg & Co are demolished) even if only be default.

And just because a leader may not be particularly popular does not mean party will not be. Opposition leaders at this stage rarely have much support as the ruling party gets all the publicity.

Give it another 18 months.

and as I say...thus it will happen !!


Very noble of you Veritas but in the world we live in today, most moronic voters want the complete package. Sad fact but for example, Hague and IDS had no chance as they're a couple of baldies. Say what you like about Cameron but he looks like a Prime Minister.
 
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