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a&r: "its not what we're after"
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#11666
a&r: "its not what we're after" 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
This bands A&R said no thanks to this demo remix, and its #24 in youtubes music ratings for today.



Well, A&R know best.

I quit "the biz"
 
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#11667
Re:a&r: "its not what we're after" 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Nice track (remix's not bad either).

M
 
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#11670
Re:a&r: "its not what we're after" 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
I enjoyed that, bit dated though.

The A&R were right - even if in other ways they are wrong.

It's the didn't sign the Beatles lark, forgeting who they did sign.
 
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#11676
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
I agree it is a bit 90s sounding, but (disclaimer:) my scope was limited by only having the full track to work with (which I also found on youtube).

Ah well, I can take heart that its currently:

#2 - Top Rated (Today) - Music - All
#2 - Top Rated (Today) - Music - English
#39 - Top Rated (Today) - All

and a couple of DJs emailed me asking for the MP3. Maybe I should pass them on to Polydor.

I'm so bitter!
 
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#11678
Popjustice Reader

Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
I'm sorry to I'm inclined to agree with what Popjustice said, and I suspect the amount of views this has had is principally down to them flagging it rather than the quality of the production.
 
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#11679
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
I'm afraid I'm with Popjustice on this one Nathan; nice idea, doesn't quite carry it off.
 
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#11680
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Did I miss something? When did PJ get involved?
 
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#11681
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Oh Nathan; ye of little faith!

EVERYBODY reads the Tipsheet board before anywhere else - from The Times to Popbitch, the News of the World to the Velvet Rope; EMI to BBC; GAWKER to POP Justice...

Take a look at PJ and all will be revealed (no credit to the TS board, mind you, which I have commented on!).
 
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#11683
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Wow I hadnt noticed that. I usually just read the weekly mail outs from PJ & PopBitch.

"Basically shit"! - well, it was a "demo" remix - if I'd had access to the seperates instead of doing my bit over the full track then I'm sure it would have been better.

probably
 
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#11684
Re:Take That and get out 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Sometimes, if I have a quiet moment, I look at the page impressions and watch around 500 people log on and read after they get back from lunch; then it dips to around 300 at any given moment during the afternoon; leaps over 1000 after 5 and before 7; drops again and explodes after 8pm (3pm New York time) when the Americans return from lunch (I can see the US IP numbers).
 
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#12074
4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
I've had so many emails from people asking where can they can download it? will it be a b-side? can I send them an mp3 so they can play it on Saturday night?

It reached #1 rated (not #1 "viewed") music video last week. I even found (via Google) a four page discussion of the remix on a TT fan forum.

I went back to the a&r with an update on its popularity, but no response.

I must have a total misunderstanding and naivety of how the music industry works. If the public are asking to buy something, I presumed a major label would be interested in selling it to them.
 
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#12077
Martin

Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Ok , lets look at this logically mate, that many views on the track, which is pretty good, and people asking you for copies, means that sooner or later someone is going to eq up a dance floor quality mix from Youtube, and leave the stable door open on Limewire.
An open question to A+R employed by big companies.
If this was YOUR act, YOUR OWN money, and I don`t mean bonuses and slaps on the back.....
Will you sit back and watch this happen again and again?
It`s out there, this is a popular act of mega proportions, with an increasingly popular remix.
I also despair sometimes.
 
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#12081
Kev
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Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
You've got to take into consideration the fact that they have probably already commissioned remixes by big names.

Another thing to consider. What percentage of the amount of views you have are people who would buy the remix? 4000 sales is nothing, what if only 10% of 4000 buy it? What if everyone who's seen it has watched it twice?!

Don
 
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#12094
Stretch

Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Woudn't be at all surprised if we don't hear a Remix version soon that sounds a bit like yours Nathan - but produced by a 'named' producer - but we know who did it first!

Keep at it. We are.

Stretch & the Dastards
www.Dastards.com
 
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#12097
Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
The solution is to keep doing it and doing it well.

If you keep turning out top stuff then somebody will notice. It's not the one you've doing it's the one your going to do.

Good luck - hope you do get seen.
 
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#12109
Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hi Nathan,

This is one of the reasons why one should set up their own label and put it aht ! themselves. With the groundswell of demand you can do a bootleg or the legitimate version of finding a bunch of clones to do a new version. Get an arranger to do a chart of the music for you. I know a good one down here who can basically get sheet music of the whole track. The get a programmer or even a band of session guys to recreate the track, deal with the publishing side of things and release it. Why oh why do you need to run after these a&r people ? Put it out get it popular then write to the MD of the company and tell them to sack their a&r because they are not doing their job because they turned down and obvious hit.

As regards the 90s sound, (ok i havent listened to it yet). 90s music or 90s sampled music will be the next big trend in dance music after 80s electro has run its course. OK NOTE: I SAID IT FIRST.

Put it out as a digital single but with all the stuff you are doing you should be releasing stuff.
All the best dance labels started with next to nothing. 4 Liberty started with 500 UKP. You can pick up good people from here to do a&r, marketing etc. Just pull the reins in and set up your own label. Then when you get somewhere sell it to the majors for more than its worth. lol a few millions that is. I could talk more but im busy so i have to run.
 
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#12117
Re:4000 views later... 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hi Nathan,

Just had a listen to the track and while i like the mix i dont actually like the song itself. So what did Polydor actually say and how come they havent sent the boys round because you dared to upload their copyrighted material ?
 
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#12126
cheers 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
Thanks everytone for the feedback. My main point of annoyance isn't that I'm missing out on a remix fee, its that I've done something that people want but I dont have the rights to give it to them.

However, DJKZ raises some interesting points. I don't need an arranger to work out these basic chords though, you can play them using one finger on an old Yamaha

Its the publishing side that scares me.

Cheers

Nathan
 
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#12127
The Boys 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
"So what did Polydor actually say and how come they havent sent the boys round because you dared to upload their copyrighted material ?"

I thought I'd get at least a cease & desist note.

It seems they're so uninterested they can't even be arsed to tell me to take it down... unless this tiny bit of extra free publicity is beneficial to them...
 
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#12156
Kev
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Re:The Boys 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
unless this tiny bit of extra free publicity is beneficial to them... Hit the nail on the head there. Why should they be worried? It's more exposure for them and not affecting their sales.
 
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