Interesting to see the explosion of tips over on the Record of the Day board.
Normally when they ask for tips there are about a dozen.
But this tells us a lot - good and bad.
First, there are a lot of bands and individuals making music again.
Secondly, too many tips spoil the broth... nobody with any sanity can filter through that list of dozens of names.
Thirdly, BAD thing, it's too easy to make what we used to call DEMOS. These days, with MySpace, YouTube and others, seconds after the concept arrives, so do the demos.
NOT READY!!!
So the germ of an idea dies or is suffocated by too early exposure.

So, I ask for only those who are ready to post their tips here.
None of those silly, immature, unprepared hopefuls.
No "I love the idea of limos and girls/boys with big tits" (I know a few boys who ARE big tits) "and drugs and fame, fame, gimme fame... let's invent a band and rool the charts".

We do take the time to listen on here.
It's a real nuisance when the links don't even work as they have not been thought through.

And 99% of the music is simply NOT YET READY for critical exposure.

So don't blow it. Less is more.

If and when you're ready, we can help you.
Do put links up, aim us at ONE TRACK, make sure all the information is there... most of us can only afford a minute of our valuable time.
Almost everyone important reads this board - globally.

Fewer out-of-work losers and lower down the ladder observers with time on their hands.

Why did ORSON not happen until the Tipsheet board revived?
Because they needed a window respected by those that matter.

When the Tipsheet endorses you, those who can help, and who care about great music, hear you, sit up and pay attention, and sign you, expose you, break you, market you.

They may subsequently lose you, but that's up to them!

This was posted a week or two ago, but seems to have got lost in the flood, so for anyone who didn't see!

Daniel Rachel and his track 'Hearts & Bones'

http://www.myspace.com/danielrachel

Currently on his own independent label Dust Records with the excellent album 'A Taste Of Money'.
Available for publishing world-wide.
Featured on Record Of The Day 9th November.

Brilliant sound and very original.

JK: excellent advice. It's so easy to get excited about posting "stuff" that you forget that it's your face to the world. Maybe, just maybe, your stuff will be listened to by the right person - and she will find it plain sloppy.

It was very notable that on what seemed like a pretty quiet day on ROTD, that a "post your tips here", or whatever it said went like topsy.
I was pleased to see that two acts I am working with were tipped, and it wasn`t by us, which was nice.(although I did back it up later)
Without trying to upset some acts, I think a lot of them do not realise that they are actually known already and are being let down gently by nice people.
We produced an act recently, who were convinced they had now "made it", and my colleague put it so elequently to them.
He said, "if you are doing this job for that reason, you are doing the wrong job, you should be doing it for the love it."And he is absolutely right.The music and creation of music is paramount.
Hits are a pot of gold, that some achieve.
I have met and worked with so many talented musicians and people in the industry since starting to contribute to these pages.

JK im gonna say that perhaps its time to stop asking for or responding to tips.

Maybe if we only tipped music we absolutely loved it would improve the quality thereof. I sometimes wonder whats the point about saying this band is great etc.
Having said that on few occaisions do i listen to the tips and i have discovered some great music. But by and large i ignore the tips.
Maybe we need photos and some information. I find it boring sometimes to respond to everything likewise others may feel the same about what i tipped.

I notice my Eedris post had lots of replies to protest songs but no one mentioned anything about the artist
i tipped.

Perhaps we have all been Tipped over the edge.

By the way JK apart from the Orson and vacancy dealsn from last year what else has been tipped on here that has gone on to find success. Im not having a go JK just curious as i am sure there are lots of quiet things happening in the background without anyone really knowing about it. Well us mere mortals that is.

I've only heard about four or five real HITS in the past 18 months.
Some I have pointed in the right direction (like Orson and The Vacancy)... others came to nothing... some are being developed and some feel they would prefer not to be officially linked to me, which is understandable.

But I am very, very choosy. Not many pass my "quality control".

Which is why those up top tend to watch this board far more closely than others.

No, please all keep tipping, but only those you REALLY think stand a chance.

I listen to everything but those I simply don't like I don't mention. This board is famous for NOT being negative. Our board keepers delete or edit negative posts. Better no comment at all than a destructive one.

Constructive criticism is fine but pure negatives are no help.

DJKZ wrote:

But by and large i ignore the tips.
Perhaps we have all been Tipped over the edge.


Why then

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at the end of your message???

That tips thread really shows them up and makes them look as though all their posters are losers.
it's fine supporting indie bands and dance hits but those tips are so low grade and most don't even bother to give links, just looads of silly names.

Well, I thought I was more polite than that! But the gate was left open and in ran the sheep, I`m afraid.

I think calling the ROTD posters 'losers' is a bit much. Bare in mind that some posters use their real names and a patently, for all to see, not losers, Debs Wild for instance.

Yes, a lot of new posters seem to pop up whenever tips are requested, but that happens here too. I recently sifted through an obviously street teamed thread about some band or other. Can't remember the name, 'Citizen something', possibly

I lurked on both ROTD and tipsheet for months before feeling compelled to join in.

I agree that some of the tips weren't ready (not necessarily bad though) but I also had a root through and found some stuff I really liked.

Also, I think it can help a band if they get tipped before they are ready, if constructive criticism or even better, the offer of help are forthcoming. Sometimes all it needs is a good producer or manager to give some guidance.

Points well made and taken

Good points Stewy, and JK, but I do worry about some unfinished works in some areas not being posted which could be hepled in developement. I do agree though this is a very small percentage as it allways was sadly. Either way, it spares us the X Factor.

Hi Eh !

Well this is a signature and is a form of promotion and advertising whereas a tip is something completely different. You dont tip your own music, you plug your own and your reasons for are slightly different to tipping. I don't tip my own music unless i am asking for feedback. I think tipping is to alert what you think is a hit ready to go. That's just how i see it and of course you may have different ideas and opinions about it.