Last year I put my unauthorised Orson "No Tomorrow" remix up on myspace for 24 hours, the band had said no but I wanted to show off to tipsheeters, just for one day.

Some people must have downloaded & shared it, because when I looked on E-Mule last night first of all I got this:

i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jango33/orson1.jpg

then a few seconds later, this:

i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/jango33/orson2.jpg

(they are all fake files)

why create 1000s of fake files of something thats not commercially available? Would this have been their label?

I don't get it.

I don`t get it either, I havent even heard that mix!
But it does expand on what we were chatting on the phone about yesterday, it only takes one download, and the horse has bolted.

When you help a group or artiste by bringing the industry to them (as we did on this board after 8 dry years for Orson) they are, rightly, INCREDIBLY greatful.

They get a deal, a lawyer, a manager, a publisher, a label...

All of these move in sharpish (though not as sharpish as I did) and most are there for the money (I was there for the music).

They slowly belittle the early efforts of the people who spotted and supported the band or artiste (like Brett Meisner whose Velvet Rope post alerted ME to them)...

The group or star begins to realise the truth; it only happened because THEIR music - the music they made and created - was great.

So they begin to forget the spark that lit the fuse.

And sadly, slowly but surely, that elusive, indefinable, subtle, fragile magic that moved them into success, dissipates and leaves them stranded with one hit or perhaps two fading into memory...

Chumbawamba?

I've watched it a hundred times.

I'm still here.

JK...i hope your GRATEFUL for highlighting your typo.

I understand the thread of what your saying...but if the band realise that it IS their music that is great and not the 'yes men' then wouldn't that spur them on to greater things rather than making them forget about the spark?

Orson ARE only one hit wonders anyway!

Rick: ..i hope you'RE grateful for highlighting your typo.

Good point Rick (it's YOU'RE!!!) and your job application as subeditor is accepted (I can never get Greatful/Grateful right) but although it should technically spur on the creative juices, it frequently doesn't and has the opposite effect.

The influences on creativity are very hard to assess.

I've seen it time and again... artistes killing off the ingredients of their success.

You see, whilst it IS all there in the music, sometimes it takes cunning strategy and hard work to change the world so they can hear what's good.

I heard Orson talking about how they got their big break on the radio a few weeks ago, not a mention for Velvet Rope, TS or JK I'm afraid. Of course this doesn't mean they didn't acknowledge any, these bits could have been edited out (and often are).

Dare I suggest they are very nice GUYS(had to get the highlight bit in!) and might be to busy to reply.
I do hope so, one never knows.
They seem to have a busy schedule.