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Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA
TOPIC: Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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This casting couch stuff is an interesting phenomenon.
I don't for a second believe that Harvey Weinstein pinned down and raped women. Perhaps he's tried - sometimes gauchely - to create or size opportunities for sexual fun at work. Maybe there was a quid pro quo arrangement sometimes but hey, fair exchange is no robbery. Ashley Judd (and many others) was perfectly content to go along with whatever deal was put to her as long as the career results kept coming. Now that she's not so cute, she's suddenly whingeing about it. No one's fooled. She traded on her female status then and she's doing it again in a different way now. I'm sure it happens with male actors too, but you won't hear them complaining because they have to stay in the closet.
Actually, plenty of older women get work in films. Helen Mirren, Glenn Close, Maggie Smith, Judie Dench, Meryl Streep. They all have some acting chops rather than just being pretty faces/asses/pairs of tits.
In the music industry, my understanding is that casting couch also happens a lot. Most of the time it's actually females with sub-par skills sleeping their way to the top, or climbing the greasy pole as it were I hear that it's very prevalant in the musical theatre world among the gays, although this is the social circle for young actor/singers so maybe they'd do it anyway. The phenomenon can also manifest itself in different ways, like being expected to participate in drinking culture. I was only offered once, by a flouncy musical director. I just told him I preferred to get work on my merits or not at all, and that had no negative repercussions for me at all. Perhaps I won a bit of respect from him. More importantly, I don't think it was a genuine sleep-with-me-and-I'll-get-you-work offer. Rather, it was a pretext to hit on someone much younger and overcome any embarrassment or shyness therefrom. I suspect that lots of casting couch incidents were like this: it's not really casting couch, it's just a line to get over the awkwardness of propositioning someone for sex.
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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In The Know (as always !) wrote:
Thats an awful lot of admissions for someone who didn't do anything !
He must surely have been up to something. Watched a couple of interviews with this woman yesterday (" Harvey Weinstein Victim Lauren Sivan: 'I Was So Shocked' | MSNBC" and " Harvey Weinstein: ‘I Had A Great Time,’ After Harassing Journalist Lauren Sivan | Megyn Kelly TODAY") and she seemed genuine to me. Not overegging things, hadn't sought a settlement, her finding it "pathetic" sounds authentic and her story is consistent over both interviews. But if he behaved like that, then phoned her the following day as if nothing untoward had happened, it puts a question mark over his interpretation of what is consensual and what isn't.
He was recorded in a police sting in 2015 apparently admitting to touching a woman's breast.
money.cnn.com/2017/10/10/media/harvey-we...-magazine/index.html
His wife has left him.
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41578997
He may well attract exaggerated or false allegations from opportunists, but women such as Angelina Jolie or Gwyneth Paltrow surely could not be accused of seeking fame or money by making these claims, as they must have plenty of that already.
NYT: Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie and Others Say Weinstein Harassed Them
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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Actor Romola Garai felt 'violated' after Harvey Weinstein encounter
“Like every other woman in the industry, I’ve had an ‘audition’ with Harvey Weinstein, where I’d actually already had the audition but you had to be personally approved by him,” said Garai. “So I had to go to his hotel room in the Savoy, and he answered the door in his bathrobe. I was only 18. I felt violated by it, it has stayed very clearly in my memory.”
Garai said the incident in London was indicative of Weinstein’s approach to women in the film industry, consistently putting young female actors, often desperate to get a break in the industry, into “humiliating situations” to prove “he had the power to do it”.
“The transaction was just that I was there,” said Garai, who once she was in the hotel room with Weinstein just sat on a chair and had a brief discussion about film. “The point was that he could get a young woman to do that, that I didn’t have a choice, that it was humiliating for me and that he had the power. It was an abuse of power.”
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Garai told the Guardian she “couldn’t be less surprised” by the allegations against Weinstein and said the fact that the film industry was “very very very misogynistic” had meant Weinstein’s behaviour was accepted. “You can’t find an actress that doesn’t have that kind of story about Harvey,” she said.
It sounds as if he may have created a lot of enemies now ready to turn his power play into one of their own.
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In The Know (as always !)
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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In The Know (as always !) wrote:
He is finished in the film business - no studio would touch him, he's toxic.
Any film he was involved with will have demonstrators outside the cinema !
Suspended from BAFTA now -
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41586442
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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What hypocrites - BAFTA¡
Best Film and Director - for Roman Polanski.
For The Pianist in 2002...
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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Polanski - unlike Weinstein - was convicted of child rape.
Yet he is loved/awarded at so many movie festivals - from Cannes to Berlin.
Even Argentina. The movie industry really has double standards.
Maybe we all do....
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Re:Weinstein - the False Allegations Industry takes off in the USA 6 Years, 6 Months ago
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Spee32HR wrote:
Finished like Roman Polanski?
Oscar winner - with numerous nominations, and other awards from so many countries!
We'll see...
Still making movies but they are mostly bore fests for me.
Klaus Kinski's own daughter came forward about Klaus. Yet Herzog and Kinski were magical together.
Never seen a Weinstein film that I actually liked.
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