Very true, Jo.

I don't understand how, if one part of the case is proven to be a load of invented nonsense, it doesn't invalidate the rest of the evidence?

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The site is back.
I took it down because it hadn’t received any views for a long time and seemed to be obsolete.
I thought better of it and it’s been reloaded and won’t be taken down again.

Anne xx

Good for you. I watched a quite tacky program last night about "Australian Scandals" and then it got to Rolf..lasted a minute. It was sickening. Just repeating every tabloid trashy thing. real or not.

Best to leave this websites up..a new generation hopefully untainted by media mendacity may discover it. Things can change...look at JK !! They were so sure they had him bang to rights 3 years ago.

I repeat.. I met Rolf about 20 years ago and he was very touch feely in that the handshake lingered and he touched my arm as he listen intently to me (whatever nonsense I was saying)

I noticed because I'm not terribly tactile but it was all OK.

His friends all say that's how he is.

In retrospect anyone can craft a new scenario when $$$$$$ beckon

Then, of course, there was this:

www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/pol...ompensation-18688961

Detectives are investigating a claim for thousands of pounds by Savile's own great-niece Caroline Robinson, now 51, who alleges the late DJ twice assaulted her at family get-togethers.

To my knowledge, the outcome of this investigation was never made public.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:dont
Jo wrote:
Forgot another element: in a room of other people who didn't notice.

They probably did and didn't care.

But people generally do care, and in a crowded pub/party/ concert/whatever, you would not be surrounded by nutters that think it is ok. SOMEONE would simply say "I don't think she likes that, Rolf, and get the girl a chair, or ask them to help in the kitchen or something.
It is ridiculous to suggest an entire room of people would take no notice of a prime time performer groping a teenager.

I was groped numerous times at work. I hated it but people just stood and did nothing.

Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

Honey wrote:
Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

long time since I was groped.

It was all quite common years ago (1930s)

Honey wrote:
Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

That’s the media and journalists for you especially from far left.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

That’s the media and journalists for you especially from far left.

It is the position women were in until recently. While I think it is not necessary to call a pinched bottom a rape attack, it is not a bad thing if people learn to keep their grubby paws to themselves.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

That’s the media and journalists for you especially from far left.

apart from notable legal eagles from both sides of politics , I have to agree Green Man. The Left seems absolutely terrified of questioning the false allegations industry. (I'd question what journalists are from the Left though..most of Britain's media is centre right)

I have a theory- that it's mainly potless working class people going for a cash grab & Labour is terrified of upsetting the apple cart.

Let's not forget the absolutely appalling disgrace Tom Watson who slithered away without a single note of condemnation from his colleagues.

## Wonder what JK thinks with Watson's role in the music industry?..I think he's probably the most hated ex-politician in the UK.

As usual poor old Hedda, noted Champagne Socialist ends up defending hapless old Tories.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Some people mistakenly think men don't mind.

That’s the media and journalists for you especially from far left.

It is the position women were in until recently. While I think it is not necessary to call a pinched bottom a rape attack, it is not a bad thing if people learn to keep their grubby paws to themselves.

Yes absolutely.

I was groped both ends whilst carrying a tray of drinks, a bunch of randy, old boilers thought it would be funny. The drinks were not for those ladies but for another table.

I actually shouted at them because it could of caused a nasty accident or even a lawsuit if glasses shattered over someone's head or face. Yes it did cost me money also. Cocktails glasses and drinks or not cheap.