the other great example as evidenced by another idiotic piece in the Press Gazette by a hack who was all for Iraqi children being blown to smithereens- the ghastly Nick Cohen- is this endless diatribe from friends of arrested murdered kiddies phone hackers having the sheer utter gall to complain about cops barging in at 6am and upsetting their families.

What the hell do they think happens to other people who are arrested ?

the only difference is that these lowlife hacks didn't have photographers and news crews, alerted by bent cops, there to witness their humiliation as their doors and windows were being bashed in and their children terrified.

I rejoice that most of these scumbags will be out of jobs in around 5 years.

I'm hearing that Sooty and Sweep have consulted lawyers about being fisted live on national TV back in the 70s.

Where will it end?

This makes sense to me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-22181...hid-plain-sight.html

Sweet Angel & Daily Malice make Nonce-sense to us.

Sadly as ever ill-informed and misinforming, the narrow, shallow, hollow, Daily malice, populist-psycho, climate-of-fear, for profit not protection.

The serious academic psycho-sexual term ‘paedophilia’/'paedophile' coined by 19th century sexologist Kraft-Ebbing was UNKNOWN in the Dumbed Down Brit mainstream until c. 1980 when the first attempted description was by the, as ever ignorant, Daily Malice with er, 'prendophrines' ?
For once and for all, (some hope) THERE IS NO STEREOTYPE PEDO, any more than there are stereotype Straights or LBGTs !

Check this small sample of celeb pedos with sexual interest or activity with under-age partners. Plus, some natural counterpart adultos.

Charles Dodgson/Lewis Carrol (young girls); Edgar Alan Poe (young girls); Field Marshal Viscount Bernard Montgomery Of El Alamein - War Hero with 10ft statue opposite Downing Street (young boys); Benjamin Britten (young boys); Elvis Presley (young girls); Jerry Lee Lewis (young girls); Errol Flynn (young girls); Charlie Chaplin (young girls); Richard Burton (a young girl), there also numerous WOMEN PEDOS if not as well known.

Celebrity NON-Victim/aMused adultophiles. Priscilla Presley; Myra Lewis; Dale Winton (his auto-bio recalls under-age sex with TWO teachers M & F); Judith Levine (U.S. academic with iconic book, "Harmful To Minors - The Perils Of Protecting Children From Sex"); Rosie Swale-Pope (round-the-world yatchswomen & multi-marathon runner).

More complete lists of aMusers not aBusers, and the aMused NOT aBused, available on request.

Don't Dumb Down - Wize Up!!

LoL.

It sounds like you're coming round to the idea that the man was indeed a massive contradiction after all, hiding some very dark secrets. I believe that all the rumours (as it happens, probably true) became an urban myth which most people didn't want to believe, just like the one about Marc Almond which was definitely false. And I think he played on that incredulity by joking about it himself as if it were true, knowing that people would just laugh it off. He was obviously extremely cunning and manipulative, and was able to hoodwink everyone with this elaborate smokescreen of eccentric behaviour and appearance. Perhaps he finally deluded himself into believing that his behaviour was OK after all - the 'charurdee' work being a way of absolving himself from the guilt.

340 lines of inquiry coming from 14 police forces, 6 police investigations, statements from relatives, BBC producers walking into his dressing room and actually seeing it, reports of groping from girls and boys famous and unknown, getting thrown of a cruise ship etc. etc. Can all we are witnessing really just be mass hysteria? I doubt it.

It all depends on your opinion of human nature. Mine changed about twelve years ago.

In The Know wrote:
I'm hearing that Sooty and Sweep have consulted lawyers about being fisted live on national TV back in the 70s.

Where will it end?

We have already seen the Rod Hull did something unspeakable with his hand to Emu and to prove the Child Protection Experts correct, Emu then went onto be an abuser as well , goosing MichaEL Parkinson on live TV.

My great worry : just what will be revealed about Shari lewis and my most beloved character when I was a wee kiddie, Lambchops ?. She was always right behind Lambchops with one hand out of sight. Where was it ?

and don't even mention Sooty.

FullFacts/WholeTruth : Errol Flynn also travelled regularly to Mexico to meet young lads and in the biog of Marlon Brando written by his long time assistant, Brando had such a voracious sexual appetite that he screwed every star in Hollywood including Marlene Deitrich (who he says helpfully cleaned the kitchen floor afterwards), got B/Js for John Geilgud and when working on a movie in Mexico and director John Ford complained about the number of youngish girls going to his trailer, he switched to boys.

Also got expelled from his military academy for organising an orgy amongst the students.

False Beard, Glasses and Scruffy wrote:
It sounds like you're coming round to the idea that the man was indeed a massive contradiction after all, hiding some very dark secrets. I believe that all the rumours (as it happens, probably true) became an urban myth which most people didn't want to believe, just like the one about Marc Almond which was definitely false. And I think he played on that incredulity by joking about it himself as if it were true, knowing that people would just laugh it off. He was obviously extremely cunning and manipulative, and was able to hoodwink everyone with this elaborate smokescreen of eccentric behaviour and appearance. Perhaps he finally deluded himself into believing that his behaviour was OK after all - the 'charurdee' work being a way of absolving himself from the guilt.

340 lines of inquiry coming from 14 police forces, 6 police investigations, statements from relatives, BBC producers walking into his dressing room and actually seeing it, reports of groping from girls and boys famous and unknown, getting thrown of a cruise ship etc. etc. Can all we are witnessing really just be mass hysteria? I doubt it.

Yes we can.

But what you say may be entirely true and the reality may be far worse or something entirely different.

In defence that rumours, lies and conspiracies can be constructed to produce a situation that is a total sham I offer the evidence that less than ten years ago George Bush Jnr, Tony Blair and a host of others conspired to exploit a fallacy that Iraq possessed WMD and having convinced the media to support that fallacy, invaded a country that had never hurt either the USA or UK and killed hundreds of thousands of innocents and displaced possibly at least one million Iraqis, crimes for which Germans were hanged for in 1946/7 and these conspirators have escaped scot free.

That, your Honour concludes the case for the prosecution.

False Beard, Glasses and Scruffy wrote:
340 lines of inquiry coming from 14 police forces, 6 police investigations, statements from relatives, BBC producers walking into his dressing room and actually seeing it, reports of groping from girls and boys famous and unknown, getting thrown of a cruise ship etc. etc. Can all we are witnessing really just be mass hysteria? I doubt it.

None of which explains why NOT ONE SINGLE complainant came forward at the time (with credible evidence) does it?

As these people waited up to 40 years to make a complaint (until it cannot possibly be refuted) maybe we should wait 40 years before holding an inquiry?

That would be fair, wouldn't it?

JK asked "Why do people do good?"

People who "do good" (define "good") are supposed to feel better about themselves. Doing "good" deeds is supposed to trigger some of the brain's "pleasure centres"

I have encountered a fair few people who I don't remember as being particularly nice who managed to associate themselves with "good causes" and ended up with their picture in the local paper presenting massive cheques (often for quite small amounts of money) to charities etc.. The presenting of the cheque seemed to be their main "work" on behalf of the charity with lots of minions beavering away in the background doing 99.999% of the work to no acclaim.

I'm convinced quite a few people use charity work to "build their brand" though perhaps it IS a valid point to make that if we all at some time in our lives do bad things, shouldn't people who HAVE done some good as well be given credit for it?

On the other hand, doing charity work with the sole intention of creating an inaccurate aura of saintliness around oneself may be the sign of a low mind.

Astro-Bro/Sis?

Not 'low mind' but low morals, BIG difference.

The complex Jim (no simple psycho-explanations per-lease) was Mensa rated High-IQ, but then so have been many undesirables.

The BOTTOM (sorry about that word) line is that some DID complain but sadly, like those now also revealed by John Simpson in an even earlier Beeb much loved ‘Uncle’ radio era 1930s thru ‘60s they were brushed off and under the Beeb-exec luxurious carpets.

Clearly, morally, JUST ONE COMPLAINT, if valid, is one too many. BUT there are now JUST 60 formal complaints to bent-cops about Jim from maybe 60,000+ that he must have met in 60 Years of fame. With maybe 6,000 sexually aMused not aBused, all unreported by an all-negative narrative bent-media CONveniently omitting the positive headline we may never see or hear, “SAVILE SEXUALLY aMused ME !”

Just like devious criminals masking and concealing their activities; the manipulative bent-media just leaves out what it doesn't want known - as ever, what’s missing is most telling.

DOH !

LoL.