Am I right in delighting at these increasingly bonkers fake claims? When I say fake - I know the presumption of innocence has been usurped by the presumption of guilt (better story) but surely many who used to be sitting on the fence have now slid over to our side? Far far more false allegations than real ones. You will NOT be believed.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5081605...-teen-threesome.html

But it's a great story (all that matters to media and those of us who consume it greedily).

You'll have noticed conveniently that the only witness to the sex act is dead (shot during a traffic incident? Don't you just love California?).

From what she says it was consensual and yes may of happened and he may of said what he said I can imagine tongue in cheek.
She did go to the police at the time.
I think it happened but I do not think there was malice in his keep your mouth shut just not wanting partners etc to find out.
I am sure another accusation will arrive soon but may not be true.

In the good old days (17 years ago) it was 27 further false allegations after publicity (ask Matthew Kelly, John Leslie and others). But many more after Savile etc. These days - different times, different country, different laws (and statutes of limitations) - who knows? Michael Jackson? Bill Cosby? Dozens I reckon, or hundreds. Someone will do a thesis comparing pages of publicity multiplied by social media equals how many loonies.

Yes JK but if it happened in 1982 it was still consensual and over 16 it looks like it's just a shit stir it's a non story

Yes and in the UK police advised false accusers to adapt their stories to fit the law - example - consensual sex with a 16 year old should be rewritten as consensual with a 15 year old - who could not consent (thus prison for 7 years; not easy to prove someone was 20 minutes older than stated). The Yank police (or media - brighter and better story) will soon work out how to bypass their statute of limitations - as happened to Cosby. A good story provokes not only further false claims but some cunning criminals too.

How is it possible to know that the person you are having sex with feels intimidated, unless you are a mind reader or they actually tell you?

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
How is it possible to know that the person you are having sex with feels intimidated, unless you are a mind reader or they actually tell you?

Well I suppose there could be obvious behavioural clues too. But yes, your point is well made.

The answer to your question is that it's another part of the effort to redefine criminal culpability. The illegality isn't derived from the actions of an individual that fall within the prohibitions of a published law. It's derived from the (I was going to write protagonist, but of course the accused may not be that...) accused person's membership of a demographic group, first and foremost white, heterosexually active men. Other risk factors are non-leftwing views (Bill Cosby), sometimes homosexuality where there is a lingering antigay agenda (Cliff, JK), and catching investigators or accusers out lying or indulging in corrupt practice (DLT, Rolf).