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TOPIC: BREXIT...for beginners
#185601
Barney

BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Corbyn will now enter discussions, at last

EU have said their stance is irrevocably clear


So another Brussels visit, by May, is Plan C

Our credibility is waning - as 27 other nations are getting bored


And one party which could have made a massive difference is dumb

That is, conspicuously - Sinn Fein who have MPs - but refuse to vote or attend Westminster



 
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#185618
JSMILL

Re:BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Actually, Brexit for beginners should involve a thorough understanding of the concept and history of political sovereignty, going back at least to 1642; a similarly sound understanding of the concept, and contentious developments, of federalism; as well as a detailed and constantly updated understanding of contemporary macroeconomics and the diverse interpretations of and conflicting ambitions for the EU itself. Most of the stunningly smug remainers have shown barely any of these qualifications, and the sad thing is the shameful ignorance on both sides of this wretched debate has been obscured by the ludicrous conviction among the middle classes that one side has voted intelligently while the other hasn't.
 
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#185620
Barney

Re:BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Yes, most have forgotten what the EEC/EU is about

Maybe though not Junker


Who said today "Ireland's border is our border"

Not what Ms May wanted to hear

On yet another Brussels sojourn


Dividing a small island (Ireland) 100 years ago was never a good idea

Not least because of those who died opposing it




But now, there could well be another century of conflict - political, economic and other...



 
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#185654
Jo

Re:BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
JSMILL wrote:
Actually, Brexit for beginners should involve a thorough understanding of the concept and history of political sovereignty, going back at least to 1642; a similarly sound understanding of the concept, and contentious developments, of federalism; as well as a detailed and constantly updated understanding of contemporary macroeconomics and the diverse interpretations of and conflicting ambitions for the EU itself. Most of the stunningly smug remainers have shown barely any of these qualifications, and the sad thing is the shameful ignorance on both sides of this wretched debate has been obscured by the ludicrous conviction among the middle classes that one side has voted intelligently while the other hasn't.
If one's exposure to Leave voters is people on social media (e.g. pro-Remain Facebook pages) posting badly spelled rants, insults and mindless slogans (e.g. "Out, out, out", "We're leaving, end of!" etc.), it's easy to assume that there's not much thought or intelligence there.
 
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#185659
Re:BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Jo wrote:
JSMILL wrote:
Actually, Brexit for beginners should involve a thorough understanding of the concept and history of political sovereignty, going back at least to 1642; a similarly sound understanding of the concept, and contentious developments, of federalism; as well as a detailed and constantly updated understanding of contemporary macroeconomics and the diverse interpretations of and conflicting ambitions for the EU itself. Most of the stunningly smug remainers have shown barely any of these qualifications, and the sad thing is the shameful ignorance on both sides of this wretched debate has been obscured by the ludicrous conviction among the middle classes that one side has voted intelligently while the other hasn't.
If one's exposure to Leave voters is people on social media (e.g. pro-Remain Facebook pages) posting badly spelled rants, insults and mindless slogans (e.g. "Out, out, out", "We're leaving, end of!" etc.), it's easy to assume that there's not much thought or intelligence there.


I strongly hope that Facebook posters in general are not representative of humans.
 
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#185667
Barney

Re:BREXIT...for beginners 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
All 2.5 billion of us?



 
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