These days it's no more than a scent hunt with no killing whatsoever. I despise foxes especially when they mauled my poor pets to shreds.

Luckily for me now I have a very good, friendly neighbour who is a farmer also protecting his livelihood & he is one hell of a sharpshooter. Don't mention badgers to him also.

So far no more foxes or dead pets in my garden.


www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-hu...g-legalised-17387046

Green Man wrote:
These days it's no more than a scent hunt with no killing whatsoever. I despise foxes especially when they mauled my poor pets to shreds.

Luckily for me now I have a very good, friendly neighbour who is a farmer also protecting his livelihood & he is one hell of a sharpshooter. Don't mention badgers to him also.

So far no more foxes or dead pets in my garden.


www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-hu...g-legalised-17387046

There is no excuse for fox hunting in the year 2019, people should keep their pets and hens safely enclosed at night. Culling is one thing, but having a sport where foxes are ripped to shreds is barbaric. Although the numbers are tiny compared to the cruelty of battery farms and intensive farming, it is still cruel.

I have seen foxes bite through coops.

I know a few people who actually use fox meat as an animal feed and for dinner.

Whose you to decide when I let my pets out Robbie ?

I can't decide when you let your pets out and neither can you decide which animals should be killed by cruel blood sports. Dogs cause much more problems by killing children, worrying sheep, fouling pavements, and noise pollution.

Green Man wrote:
I know a few people who actually use fox meat as an animal feed and for dinner.
Wouldn't fancy that. There's a type of tapeworm hosted by foxes that can apparently be deadly in humans.

www.hygiene.uni-wuerzburg.de/forschung/l...fox-tapeworm-basics/

That's the danger, there are ways to cook fox meat safely.

Not for the faint hearted .

[video]https://youtu.be/t3WD1ae5kK4[/video]

robbiex wrote:
I can't decide when you let your pets out and neither can you decide which animals should be killed by cruel blood sports. Dogs cause much more problems by killing children, worrying sheep, fouling pavements, and noise pollution.

The owner's doing for not controlling their dogs.

Green Man wrote:
That's the danger, there are ways to cook fox meat safely.

Not for the faint hearted .

[video]https://youtu.be/t3WD1ae5kK4[/video]
Mind you, he looks as if he could do with a square meal. I thought it wasn't supposed to be wise to eat any kind of carnivore at all, though I can see why people might do it if other food sources were scarce.

robbiex wrote:
I can't decide when you let your pets out and neither can you decide which animals should be killed by cruel blood sports. Dogs cause much more problems by killing children, worrying sheep, fouling pavements, and noise pollution.

Killing children? You make it sound as if they roam in packs eating babies.

The very rare cases of dogs killing children are usually when dogs have been mistreated, not exercised, and kept apart from the family.

As for fouling pavements, cant you just step around it?
This normally happens when people can be arsed to walk their dogs properly and the poor things cant wait until they get to the field.

Barking to the extent of "noise pollution" is usually when a dog is neglected by being left alone.

It is some dog owners who are the problem. Not the dogs themselves.

Nothing wrong with wild meat just make sure it's cooked properly. The hunter looks good to me and hunting is a great source of good exercise.

Good cookbook here.

www.amazon.co.uk/Hunters-Guide-Butcherin...WXTXYNPBK95G216XC382

"Cant" be arsed Not can. Sorry. Maybe I should get a new laptop that doesn't have dodgy keys and a new pair of glasses?!

There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally arbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally arbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.

Thank you for the laugh. Foxes are vermin and can be menace to farmers stock and lively hoods.

I am still skeptical about the climate change, so I will ignore that argument.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.

I very rarely season my meat personally it tastes better without seasoning for me.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.


How is guzzling palm oil going to help the environment?

It seems madness to me to swap to something heavily processed when you could use any of the hundreds of pulses available instead.
You can even shape them to look like a chunk of meat, if you must.


Quorn is over-priced, over-seasoned rubbish, and not even vegan! (made with eggs from environmentally unfriendly hens)

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.


How is guzzling palm oil going to help the environment?

It seems madness to me to swap to something heavily processed when you could use any of the hundreds of pulses available instead.
You can even shape them to look like a chunk of meat, if you must.


Quorn is over-priced, over-seasoned rubbish, and not even vegan! (made with eggs from environmentally unfriendly hens)

I take my hat off to you.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.




How is guzzling palm oil going to help the environment?

It seems madness to me to swap to something heavily processed when you could use any of the hundreds of pulses available instead.
You can even shape them to look like a chunk of meat, if you must.


Quorn is over-priced, over-seasoned rubbish, and not even vegan! (made with eggs from environmentally unfriendly hens)

Are hens more environmentally unfriendly than beef cattle or lambs, the answer is no. Is the risk of cancer from Beef and Pork, greater than that from eating Quorn, the answer again is no.

honey!oh sugar sugar. wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
There is no argument for fox hunting in 2019. it is totally barbaric and outdated. Many people don't like Tory mps, but can we hunt and kill them no. Plenty of meat on Boris Johnson, would keep a small village in food for several days. Meat eating is unsustainable if the population keeps growing at the current rate. There simply won't be enough land to sustain all the cattle and fowl to sustain this population growth (300,000+) per year.

I could always go to America or Canada. What's wrong hunting for food Robbie?

Well fox hunting isn't hunting for food, only for very strange people. As for hunting for food, well this is ok if there is no alternative, but usually there is. We will have to move towards eating much less meat than we currently do. The population of the world, particularly the uk can't sustain meat production. It has an extremely high carbon food print, and requires a lot of land, which is dwindling. Also meat production produces methane gases which add to climate change. I'm a flexitarian myself, which means I probably eat meat, maybe 2 or 3 times a month. Meat tastes good, only because of the seasoning that is added to it, put the same seasoning on something like Quorn and it will taste pretty much the same and be more healthy and sustainable.


How is guzzling palm oil going to help the environment?

It seems madness to me to swap to something heavily processed when you could use any of the hundreds of pulses available instead.
You can even shape them to look like a chunk of meat, if you must.


Quorn is over-priced, over-seasoned rubbish, and not even vegan! (made with eggs from environmentally unfriendly hens)

There is no palm oil in Quorn, and eggs have a much lower carbon footprint than beef, lamb, or pork.