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TOPIC: The Flu jab
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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'People at Higher Risk from Coranovirus'
This NHS publication gives the various categories.
And the list is much longer than yours - although your categories are included.
Michael Ryan of WHO continues to give logical and pragmatic advice.
Essentially - use common sense, stay away from crowds and avoid close proximity with others.
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Covid is a trivial virus? An "I'm Alright Jack comment
Not so trivial when it could well destroy the UK economy and put the entire world into Recession.
This will be as a result of the catastrophic and ill-judged response to the virus Hedda.
Not the virus itself.
That's a topsy-turvy argument.
Yes many countries didn't respond well to this totally new virus - which is highly infectious and mutating.
Even now its makeup is unknown, and no vaccine exists.
But the economic cost - by any reasonable logic or application of blame - was caused by the coranovirus itself.
And, so far, this has cost the UK alone - hundreds of billions.
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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There's absolutely no comparison.
Influenza is with us 500 years - and it took a large number of those years to get it under control.
Coronavirus is around only 6 months - and is still a mystery - as to how it infects so quickly, mutates etc.
Blaming those fighting it is perverse - not least because of their impossible task
In combating the unseen and unknown. Trial and error vaccine finding efforts - have been our only strategy.
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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Glad you're laughing.
Though I'm confused as to why you think this new virus isn't responsible.
For the worldwide infections and deaths - as well as the economic consequences.
Yes trivial in one way maybe - but life changing for most of the world's citizens.
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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With respect JK, how can any nation or government deal with a virus/enemy/attacker - that hasn't been encountered before?
Coronavirus could have been anything (and still may be) - that's why Nightingales were created. Stupid you say - a precaution by most.
Many thought the virus emanated from China or North Korea, in an invasive way.
6+ months later - we're still arguing about how to fix a ghost.
And what we might have done...
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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Green Man wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
The virus is trivial for 95% or more of those catching it. The effects of governments trying to deal with it are NOT trivial and are often lethal. End of discussion, please.
Obesity will fuck you up.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8546017...OVID-19-11-days.html
Yep Green Man it does seem to be massively linked.
This story is heart-breaking for the family but human beings can't continue to grow morbidly obese and not expect health implications. These children at 22 had a range of chronic conditions before getting what would probably have passed as "the flu" if they had been a healthy weight and not already a long way to rushing to the grave anyway...
Maybe a positive from this virus is people will take more responsibility for their own health and stop expecting Governments to protect them from every indulgence.
If you saw any other creature on this planet as grotesquely overweight (I know I know I'm not allowed to point this out...) as these poor young people, you could only conclude that mankind had interfered in order to farm them...
As a species: wake up!
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Re:The Flu jab 3 Years, 9 Months ago
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wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Covid is a trivial virus? An "I'm Alright Jack comment
Not so trivial when it could well destroy the UK economy and put the entire world into Recession.
This will be as a result of the catastrophic and ill-judged response to the virus Hedda.
Not the virus itself.
the catastrophic responses have come from Boris & Donald.
Basically no response at all and denial.
Prove however those responses caused the deaths. You simply cannot make flippant throwaway comments like that.
The virus killed the people (now 9 children in the USA but maybe they had medical conditions)
How do you tell now half of Britain and the USA what is best when they respond to idiotic conspiracies?
It's a new virus for Pete's sake. There are no rules, there are no perfect ways to handle it (although Trump disbanding Obama's pandemic unit set up after Sars was a big mistake).
So many experts giving simplistic solutions to a virus ( can you imagine when the Spanish Flu hit - doubt people were blaming the Bill Gates of the era).
This is how life works. There is no perfect set-up where we all go about our lives and know how to handle some new deadly event. It's a bit like saying you could control a Hurricane ( mind you Trump thought he could with a Nuclear Bomb..God help us )
And creating solutions in retrospect is nonsense.
The Big Difference between Covid and the (frigging ) Flu is that we now live in wonderful "market economies" where for 40 years various governments have made everything revolve around profit and the success of Corporations is treated as life's most important aspect.
All out the window as a new virus comes along and almost destroys these market economies.
Entire fleets of major airlines are sent to the desert in retirement. The ginormous tourism industry is possibly shattered for all time. 1000s of hotels will go bust.
The tourist shipping industry is desperately trying to park their ludicrously huge Westfield type hideous ships and are pondering on whether they can afford to keep 200 maintenance staff on them (these ships seize up if they are not in use for 3 months) One of the biggest Scanadavian shipping lines has gone bust already.
All in just 6 months. The Market Economy is the problem and no matter how often we point it out it's ignored.
All the responses from major countries have been caused by still worshiping corporations first and not people (when a Fascist style would be dictator like Trump suddenly gives Americans a gift of $1000 you know it's almost Doomsday. And that's a fraction of what he should do)
Enjoy the ride.
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