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TOPIC: Trump/Pence
#204670
Trump/Pence 5 Days, 20 Hours ago  
Scenario; Trump deliberately ups his attack on Democrats and the election, forcing, goading the Democrats to demand he's replaced (for one week) by Mike Pence. Deal with President Pence - Trump pardoned for all past "mistakes" as a "healing process", thus enabling Trump to stand again in 2024.
 
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#204674
Wyot

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 20 Hours ago  
Unless Pence has no desire for a future career in politics - given some of the "mistakes" we are talking about - I suspect unlikely.

Who would want to go down in history as the "one week president" who pardoned DT....!

It's not like the bastard will be grateful for the help - just look at poor Hedda and his $3000....

 
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#204675
Alison

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 20 Hours ago  
Trump can pardon himself for everything - and his family, staff and allies - although not from impeachment, for which it's too late.


www.npr.org/2021/01/09/955087860/can-trump-pardon-himself
 
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#204677
Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 19 Hours ago  
Exactly why I wonder whether the One Week President scenario avoids impeachment. Would Pence do it? I suspect he might well, under the premise of bringing peace and solidarity, uniting foes and allies and other bullshit that politicians specialise in. He would, of course, attend the inauguration. He would, of course, praise and support Biden.
 
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#204678
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 19 Hours ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Exactly why I wonder whether the One Week President scenario avoids impeachment. Would Pence do it? I suspect he might well, under the premise of bringing peace and solidarity, uniting foes and allies and other bullshit that politicians specialise in. He would, of course, attend the inauguration. He would, of course, praise and support Biden.

I have no idea who will be next the leader of the Republican Party but I'm sure they will be black or gay. The media won't attack a person of colour.
 
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#204683
Wyot

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 17 Hours ago  
Green Man wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Exactly why I wonder whether the One Week President scenario avoids impeachment. Would Pence do it? I suspect he might well, under the premise of bringing peace and solidarity, uniting foes and allies and other bullshit that politicians specialise in. He would, of course, attend the inauguration. He would, of course, praise and support Biden.

I have no idea who will be next the leader of the Republican Party but I'm sure they will be black or gay. The media won't attack a person of colour.



Black and gay would be wonderful...

Not sure about your thesis though GM - Robert Mugabe for one had a pretty tough ride at times. OJ Simpson....
 
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#204687
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 16 Hours ago  
Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
Exactly why I wonder whether the One Week President scenario avoids impeachment. Would Pence do it? I suspect he might well, under the premise of bringing peace and solidarity, uniting foes and allies and other bullshit that politicians specialise in. He would, of course, attend the inauguration. He would, of course, praise and support Biden.

I have no idea who will be next the leader of the Republican Party but I'm sure they will be black or gay. The media won't attack a person of colour.



Black and gay would be wonderful...

Not sure about your thesis though GM - Robert Mugabe for one had a pretty tough ride at times. OJ Simpson....


The media won't be able to go on about white supremacists in the Republican Party that only racists support Trump.

I love how media swept the Biden segment "You ain't black." If Trump said it would be on a loop.
 
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#204689
Alison

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 15 Hours ago  
The prospect of Trump's impeachment - after leaving office - is now increasing, and becoming more likely; this could occur following the first 100 days of Biden's presidency.

Undoubtedly, this would make Trump's censure much more likely, whilst allowing the Democrats to bury the Republicans - under the new Biden slogan, America United.

Constitutional experts will have a field day, as there are numerous interpretations of Article 2, for example - which gives Presidential authorities; the relevant wording is distinctly vague.

Disputes and disagreements though would be settled by the US Supreme Court - to which Trump personally made a number of strategic appointments during his tenure. These individuals may well be thankful.
 
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#204692
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 5 Days, 13 Hours ago  
Alison wrote:
The prospect of Trump's impeachment - after leaving office - is now increasing, and becoming more likely; this could occur following the first 100 days of Biden's presidency.

Undoubtedly, this would make Trump's censure much more likely, whilst allowing the Democrats to bury the Republicans - under the new Biden slogan, America United.

Constitutional experts will have a field day, as there are numerous interpretations of Article 2, for example - which gives Presidential authorities; the relevant wording is distinctly vague.

Disputes and disagreements though would be settled by the US Supreme Court - to which Trump personally made a number of strategic appointments during his tenure. These individuals may well be thankful.


"United" to those with rose tinted lenses. America will be divided even more and big tech are silencing more conservatives. Now people are turning up to Twitter HQ.

www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-headquarter...rally-san-francisco/

People seem to forget about the First Amendment or is that for Democrats only ?
 
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#204733
hedda

Re:Trump/Pence 4 Days, 10 Hours ago  
Highly unlikely and JK you are still ignoring that any presidential candidate needs $Billions to get elected and $Multi-Millions to just compete within their own party.

Biden raised far more money than Trump and Trump's donations were way down in 2020 from 2015 which means the Establishment and business community saw him as a loser.

Trump's ignoring of Covid - he said it was a hoax and would peter out after "only 2 deaths" put the USA way behind in controlling it and have nearly wrecked the economy.

That, and as now confirmed as I predicted, his attack on Obamacare and 5 years of total lies about his "tremendous" non-existent new healthcare system and attempt via the courts to allow health insurers to ignore pre-existing conditions freaked out millions of aged and working class Americans.

I reckon the hard core Trump fanatics number in their 100,000s and 99% of those who voted for Trump are just mainly middle class rusted on Republicans who vote traditionally for the party.

I think millions of them would be horrified by the Capitol riot and now see Trump as a drama they do not want.
Trump has now twice lost the popular vote-the 7 million Biden lead says it all.

You can down play the Capitol riot but it's going to be the perfect opportunity for the Republicans to ditch Trump.

And now the Democrats control all 3 levels of government they can pass a law that prevents Trump ever standing for office again.
It will be Nancy Pelosi, not Biden who puts the stake through the Vampire's heart

As the once Aussie Opposition Leader Andrew Peacock who lost an election despite high ratings put it when asked if he would stand again:
"a souffle doesn't rise twice"
 
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#204734
hedda

Re:Trump/Pence 4 Days, 10 Hours ago  
Alison wrote:
The prospect of Trump's impeachment - after leaving office - is now increasing, and becoming more likely; this could occur following the first 100 days of Biden's presidency.

Undoubtedly, this would make Trump's censure much more likely, whilst allowing the Democrats to bury the Republicans - under the new Biden slogan, America United.

Constitutional experts will have a field day, as there are numerous interpretations of Article 2, for example - which gives Presidential authorities; the relevant wording is distinctly vague.

Disputes and disagreements though would be settled by the US Supreme Court - to which Trump personally made a number of strategic appointments during his tenure. These individuals may well be thankful.



Interesting you mention the Supreme Court largely ignored at the moment.

One of Trump's yuuge mistakes was actually believing they were his playthings having put them there.

It was so predictable by a bloke who thinks he is omnipotent and incapable of understanding that 1. they are judges who go by the law and 2. few people like being insulted in such fashion as when he demanded they bend to his will.

And largely over-looked is the fact that the Democratic Georgia Senate wins means Biden can increase the size of the Supreme Court- it's never been fixed at a number and has been increased over the years.. and Biden specifically refused to say he wouldn't.

Trump's bungling of the Georgia Senate vote which was a political disaster and amply demonstrates his lack of understanding how politics work and belief it's all about him, also means Biden can now pack the Federal courts with Democratic leaning judges which wipes out one thing the Republicans demanded of him- which he did- packing the courts with Republican judges (who also in the end threw out Trump's legal bids)

It's yet another reason the Republicans would be crazy to take another chance on the unpredictable Trump (apart from him being too old) in the last few months he has literally unraveled all the benefits they wanted. It's never happened before.
 
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#204737
Alison

Re:Trump/Pence 4 Days, 1 Hour ago  
hedda wrote:
Biden can increase the size of the Supreme Court- it's never been fixed at a number and has been increased over the years

Biden can now pack the Federal courts with Democratic leaning judges



Historically, the Supreme Court has had 9 judges - who are appointed for life.

The figure (made by statute) can only be reduced through death, resignation or impeachment.

Attempts to increase the number have failed badly - most notably, FDR's effort to help his New Deal initiative.

So Biden will have to wait a while before making appointments - some Presidents were unable to make any.
 
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#204746
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 3 Days, 19 Hours ago  
Alison wrote:
hedda wrote:
Biden can increase the size of the Supreme Court- it's never been fixed at a number and has been increased over the years

Biden can now pack the Federal courts with Democratic leaning judges



Historically, the Supreme Court has had 9 judges - who are appointed for life.

The figure (made by statute) can only be reduced through death, resignation or impeachment.

Attempts to increase the number have failed badly - most notably, FDR's effort to help his New Deal initiative.

So Biden will have to wait a while before making appointments - some Presidents were unable to make any.


There will be carnage and destruction - America is sadly too divided.
 
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#204766
hedda

Re:Trump/Pence 3 Days, 7 Hours ago  
Alison wrote:
hedda wrote:
Biden can increase the size of the Supreme Court- it's never been fixed at a number and has been increased over the years

Biden can now pack the Federal courts with Democratic leaning judges



Historically, the Supreme Court has had 9 judges - who are appointed for life.

The figure (made by statute) can only be reduced through death, resignation or impeachment.

Attempts to increase the number have failed badly - most notably, FDR's effort to help his New Deal initiative.

So Biden will have to wait a while before making appointments - some Presidents were unable to make any.


No he only has to wait a few days with his inauguration on the 20th and until Congress sits again.

The Constitution states the Supreme Court numbers are set by Congress and the Senate.

It has never been "fixed" although has remained static for 100 years or so.

The Democrats now control Congress. They control the Senate.. or will in a few days (which is why many Republicans are seething at Trump who they claim lost them the Senate)

The FDR case was a whole different story and failed for many reasons.
Apart from that, tradition has been turned on it's head by Donald Trump appointing of Supreme Court judges so close to an election, a controversy that raged for months, the Republicans refusal for over a year to consider Barack Obama's appointment of a judge and so on.

Biden has refused to state several times he would not increase numbers in the Supreme Court. Of course to do so, he might have to do it within 2 years. Probably why the current court members tread so warily.
 
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#204774
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 2 Days, 23 Hours ago  
hedda wrote:
Alison wrote:
hedda wrote:
Biden can increase the size of the Supreme Court- it's never been fixed at a number and has been increased over the years

Biden can now pack the Federal courts with Democratic leaning judges



Historically, the Supreme Court has had 9 judges - who are appointed for life.

The figure (made by statute) can only be reduced through death, resignation or impeachment.

Attempts to increase the number have failed badly - most notably, FDR's effort to help his New Deal initiative.

So Biden will have to wait a while before making appointments - some Presidents were unable to make any.


No he only has to wait a few days with his inauguration on the 20th and until Congress sits again.

The Constitution states the Supreme Court numbers are set by Congress and the Senate.

It has never been "fixed" although has remained static for 100 years or so.

The Democrats now control Congress. They control the Senate.. or will in a few days (which is why many Republicans are seething at Trump who they claim lost them the Senate)

The FDR case was a whole different story and failed for many reasons.
Apart from that, tradition has been turned on it's head by Donald Trump appointing of Supreme Court judges so close to an election, a controversy that raged for months, the Republicans refusal for over a year to consider Barack Obama's appointment of a judge and so on.

Biden has refused to state several times he would not increase numbers in the Supreme Court. Of course to do so, he might have to do it within 2 years. Probably why the current court members tread so warily.


I bet the Republicans whom voted to impeach Trump are part of the NWO ?
 
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#204775
Alison

Re:Trump/Pence 2 Days, 23 Hours ago  
hedda wrote:
The Constitution states the Supreme Court numbers are set by Congress and the Senate.

It has never been "fixed" although has remained static for 100 years



The Judiciary Act (aka Circuit Judges Act) 1869 - the last relevant legislation - stipulates that the Supreme Court has 9 judges.

Although I would assume that - with appropriate legislation (Congress and/or Senate) - the figure could be increased.

However, it's significant that even Trump didn't go the legal route - and waited until Ginsburg died before making his appointment.
 
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#204783
hedda

Re:Trump/Pence 2 Days, 20 Hours ago  
Any Act of Congress can be over-turned or re-jigged. Happens all the time as exampled by Trump slashing so much Obama era legislation.

there would be no real point to Congress if they didn't have the power to craft legislation how they wished. What was appropriate 50 years may well be out of date today and need amending.

George Bush Jnr did likewise to legislation passed under Bill Clinton and in particular strict financial controls (never fixed by Obama) which led to the 2007/2008 meltdown.

Trump had no real reason to change numbers on the Supreme Court because basically, he didn't do anything they would need challenging there.

Plenty of top Democrats said they wanted the Supreme Court increased by as many as 6 new judges. Not really a lot considering their power.

Whether it happens and Biden wants to now is another thing.
 
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#204820
Green Man

Re:Trump/Pence 1 Day, 20 Hours ago  
hedda wrote:
Any Act of Congress can be over-turned or re-jigged. Happens all the time as exampled by Trump slashing so much Obama era legislation.

there would be no real point to Congress if they didn't have the power to craft legislation how they wished. What was appropriate 50 years may well be out of date today and need amending.

George Bush Jnr did likewise to legislation passed under Bill Clinton and in particular strict financial controls (never fixed by Obama) which led to the 2007/2008 meltdown.

Trump had no real reason to change numbers on the Supreme Court because basically, he didn't do anything they would need challenging there.

Plenty of top Democrats said they wanted the Supreme Court increased by as many as 6 new judges. Not really a lot considering their power.

Whether it happens and Biden wants to now is another thing.


Biden will do whatever Harris commands him to do.
 
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