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#217123
Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
Another example of media simplification and vilification; it's not the media's fault; it's OUR fault. Humanity no longer has the ability or inclination to think deeply. Slogans Rool OK? I must admit, this Century I've become ashamed to be a human being.
 
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#217233
Wyot

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
Novak argues that a recent infection means he does not need to be vaccinated under Australian rules. The Australian Gov argues this rule only applies to Australian nationals.

I can think of only 3 possible reasons for this.

1. The virus knows to be less dangerous to Australian nationals when transmitted from an Australian national rather than a foreigner?

2. Australians feel strongly that if they are going to be infected they prefer to be infected by an Australian rather than a foreigner?

3. It is now possible for a country to go insane and Australia is showing how this is dobe?
 
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#217239
md

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
Clear thinking and joy are only possible when the emotions are settled. The word panic comes from Pan the God, player of the Pandean pipes. Harmonious music and well scripted and performed drama help to calm the emotions.
 
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#217265
Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
Nothing to do with Justice or Common Sense. It proves that often, indeed usually, officials get it wrong. Common sense says if Novak has had Covid and recovered, he is unlikely to have it again (indeed, I bet he'll pass the obligatory test). Would any ordinary Australian be allowed back into their country? Perhaps be told to self isolate for 5 days? No; this will be politicians, backed by media, going for the populist decision ("them and us"... stupid slogans, stupid superficial headlines).

Despair for humanity. It has lost the plot.
 
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#217266
Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
And any decent human being who is a professional tennis player should pull out of the Australian Open if the Government deports Novak. And refuse to take part in any future contact there.
 
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#217268
Green Man

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
And any decent human being who is a professional tennis player should pull out of the Australian Open if the Government deports Novak. And refuse to take part in any future contact there.

I agree strong boycotts do work. If there is no tennis players there is no matches and true fans will stick up to their favourite players and support them regardless.

Some governing sports bodies refuse to travel countries if there is strong violations of human rights.
 
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#217269
Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
It seems the Australian rule is - if you're not vaccinated (unless you're an Australian citizen) you are not allowed into the country. Fair enough; Novak must then be deported. And I would strongly suggest all the other tennis players should voluntarily leave Australia. If that is the attitude of the country and you do not want to obey the vaccination rule, do not go there. I'm very PRO vaccine (have had the flu jab for 15 years now and have all 3 Covid jabs). But I shall not go to Australia. I'm not a fan of Apartheid. It's why I've never visited South Africa.
 
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#217278
Martian

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
This debacle, involving the Australian government having to defend its actions in court (unsuccessfully), will have serious repercussions for the country's tourist industry.

Its state and federal legislative bodies seem disjointed and at variance, as are the tennis and medical authorities. People intending to attend the Australian GP, and other events, will be worried.
 
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#217306
hedda

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
And any decent human being who is a professional tennis player should pull out of the Australian Open if the Government deports Novak. And refuse to take part in any future contact there.

The opposite is happening..some top players are slating Novak for being unvaccinated (seems he's a full on anti-vaxer).

Personally I don't give a stuff and love the entire episode as the ghastly current government and the PM @ScottyFromMarketing as he's dubbed (he's a former PR man)has completely bungled the entire episode.

Even better they current right wing Federal government tried to use it to bash the current left wing State Victorian government over the whole affair but it's backfired.

On top of that they've upset the considerable sized Serbian and Croatian community.

With a general election due by March this year, a bungled sport's episode ( Kiss of Death) , bungled Omicron response, his best pal from the weirdo Hillsong Cult on serious charges, his other best pal a QAnon devotee...looks like it's Scotty's end days.
 
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#217342
Green Man

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
It seems the Australian rule is - if you're not vaccinated (unless you're an Australian citizen) you are not allowed into the country. Fair enough; Novak must then be deported. And I would strongly suggest all the other tennis players should voluntarily leave Australia. If that is the attitude of the country and you do not want to obey the vaccination rule, do not go there. I'm very PRO vaccine (have had the flu jab for 15 years now and have all 3 Covid jabs). But I shall not go to Australia. I'm not a fan of Apartheid. It's why I've never visited South Africa.

Sadly JK there is still some sort of Apartheid going on in SA. However do visit Port Elizabeth.

In one hotel window in SA you can see slums one full of blacks others full of whites. In another hotel window you will posh houses and fancy cars. It's a very stange place however the the beaches are beautiful.
 
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#217414
Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
After the clarification it appears Novak did, indeed, inaccurately fill in one section of the Visa. However, if he is testing negative now, that would be a very trivial reason to deport him after a Judge has declared he should NOT have been refused admission without longer time to investigate. If he IS deported, many past (and future) immigrants should also be deported for making mistakes on the declaration. Not One Rule for one, as media say.
 
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#217429
hedda

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
After the clarification it appears Novak did, indeed, inaccurately fill in one section of the Visa. However, if he is testing negative now, that would be a very trivial reason to deport him after a Judge has declared he should NOT have been refused admission without longer time to investigate. If he IS deported, many past (and future) immigrants should also be deported for making mistakes on the declaration. Not One Rule for one, as media say.

He says the "declaration" was filled in for him but alas, having filled in so many myself they clearly state you are responsible for whatever is written.

Tennis is now so ruthless I'm sure some players would like to see hm deported.

It's become a huge political bungle and I think with Immigration matters judges have no choice but to stick to the law.
 
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#217459
Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
Isn't there a tennis organisation like a Union in Australia? Surely they must be aware that if Novak is deported, dozens of others will (I hope) pull out of the stupid Australian Open and future events will probably have to be cancelled?
 
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#217462
Green Man

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Isn't there a tennis organisation like a Union in Australia? Surely they must be aware that if Novak is deported, dozens of others will (I hope) pull out of the stupid Australian Open and future events will probably have to be cancelled?

There should be a mass boycott by tennis players. What happened to "My body my choice" or is that for abortions.
 
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#217465
hedda

Re:Novak 2 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Isn't there a tennis organisation like a Union in Australia? Surely they must be aware that if Novak is deported, dozens of others will (I hope) pull out of the stupid Australian Open and future events will probably have to be cancelled?

Tennis is obviously a $Billion industry in Oz and the Australian Open one of the world's premier tennis events.

Of course it's hugely damaging especially for the state Victoria being one of it's biggest money events.

I doubt that nay other player will leave in "protest"..just so much money involved..managers and so on and very stiff contracts signed etc.

This is now a ruthless sport with $Millions in play for the players.

I think it's coming down to an Immigration issue with the media playing both sides here. Sport is one of the biggest money makers for TV stations and certainly the Murdoch media..they are walking a fine line here..do they support Novak and the 1000s of Serbian immigrants doing their lovely dances outside his hotel..or the 1000s screeching they wouldn't get away with fibbing on an immigration form.

I'm of course just loving how the politicians involved especially the ghastly PM who has so much egg on his face.

Very mean of me I know as their are millions of local tennis fans who want to see Novak play.
 
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