Fabulous - up there with my other great gigs - Springsteen in New Jersey and Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk for the first time.

And the biggest and best gig ever!! Live Aid.

I hated Live Aid Robbie! But Voyage is superb. So many memories brought back. Although we formed a publishing company with them before Waterloo (BOCU) all I really did was pick potential singles from demos they sent over.

I would be fascinated to see the Abba avatar show, but the ticket prices are a bit prohibitive. Nearly £100.00 at the least to see what is essentially a pre-recorded film show, with just the backing band being live, while the Abba vocals are I assume from the original master tapes. It cost me £120.00 to watch Wimbledon on the centre court, but at least you can watch tennis from around 11.00 am to around 20.00, so 8 or 9 hours rather than a 90-minute show. The Abba show is I suspect something that you see once as a novelty. You can't beat a live show with the actual performers playing real instruments.

As for live aid, as a teenager at the time, the line-up was amazing, with the biggest artists of the time Spandau, Nik Kershaw, Sade, Sting, Paul Young, together with old legends like Bowie, Queen, the Who, and Paul MacCartney. Outdoor concerts are not about the sound quality or being technically perfect, it's about the atmosphere and the emotion. I only saw it on tv, like most people and the sound quality sounds pretty good to me.

Robbie - Voyage is worth ten times the price. It is an experience; Eurovision meets Glastonbury but far better than both. It is the future of live gigs.

robbiex wrote:
I would be fascinated to see the Abba avatar show, but the ticket prices are a bit prohibitive. Nearly £100.00 at the least to see what is essentially a pre-recorded film show, with just the backing band being live, while the Abba vocals are I assume from the original master tapes. It cost me £120.00 to watch Wimbledon on the centre court, but at least you can watch tennis from around 11.00 am to around 20.00, so 8 or 9 hours rather than a 90-minute show. The Abba show is I suspect something that you see once as a novelty. You can't beat a live show with the actual performers playing real instruments.

As for live aid, as a teenager at the time, the line-up was amazing, with the biggest artists of the time Spandau, Nik Kershaw, Sade, Sting, Paul Young, together with old legends like Bowie, Queen, the Who, and Paul MacCartney. Outdoor concerts are not about the sound quality or being technically perfect, it's about the atmosphere and the emotion. I only saw it on tv, like most people and the sound quality sounds pretty good to me.

I wouldn't pay either to see an avatar show, nor pay to see any tribute band unless it was a booking for a party or an event. Even then a local band would do the trick.

I went to 2 arena shows Supertramp and Peter Gabriel. I would never do them again. You end watching the show from a monitor or from someone's phone. It's the same experience as a DVD.

Years ago I got talking to some bloke in a queue to see Gary Moore. We spoke about gigs we saw in the past. He saw Queen at Wembley and there was a food fight. He didn't say if he was involved.


I wish I saw Ted Nugent at an outdoor gig. Then again hearing Free For All or Stranglehold bursting in your eardrums is a fantastic experience.

robbiex wrote:

As for live aid, as a teenager at the time, the line-up was amazing, with the biggest artists of the time Spandau, Nik Kershaw, Sade, Sting, Paul Young, together with old legends like Bowie, Queen, the Who, and Paul MacCartney. Outdoor concerts are not about the sound quality or being technically perfect, it's about the atmosphere and the emotion. I only saw it on tv, like most people and the sound quality sounds pretty good to me.

I was in the stadium for live Aid and I agree that it was one of the best live experiences of all time. Springsteen, The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Dylan are all in my Top 10 so plenty of good company. Queen were the highlight but in the stadium the 2nd best experience of the day for me were The Beach Boys being beamed onto the big screen from Philadelphia. Everyone in the stadium was dancing and singing along to Californian Girls on a sunny July late afternoon so not completely unlike the ABBA scenario

BB wrote:
robbiex wrote:

As for live aid, as a teenager at the time, the line-up was amazing, with the biggest artists of the time Spandau, Nik Kershaw, Sade, Sting, Paul Young, together with old legends like Bowie, Queen, the Who, and Paul MacCartney. Outdoor concerts are not about the sound quality or being technically perfect, it's about the atmosphere and the emotion. I only saw it on tv, like most people and the sound quality sounds pretty good to me.

I was in the stadium for live Aid and I agree that it was one of the best live experiences of all time. Springsteen, The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Dylan are all in my Top 10 so plenty of good company. Queen were the highlight but in the stadium the 2nd best experience of the day for me were The Beach Boys being beamed onto the big screen from Philadelphia. Everyone in the stadium was dancing and singing along to Californian Girls on a sunny July late afternoon so not completely unlike the ABBA scenario

I only just vaguely remember watching the Philadelphia Live Aid on TV when I living in NYC. However we remember The Hooters well,some of still do.

Joe Piscopo and Chevy Chase were class acts at the time. At least I didn't suffer from Griff Rhys Jones and Mel Smith.

Don Johnson was extremely popular at the time and UK Noel Edmunds.

When Phil Collins was on I disconnected my phone and closed my windows.

BB wrote:
robbiex wrote:

As for live aid, as a teenager at the time, the line-up was amazing, with the biggest artists of the time Spandau, Nik Kershaw, Sade, Sting, Paul Young, together with old legends like Bowie, Queen, the Who, and Paul MacCartney. Outdoor concerts are not about the sound quality or being technically perfect, it's about the atmosphere and the emotion. I only saw it on tv, like most people and the sound quality sounds pretty good to me.

I was in the stadium for live Aid and I agree that it was one of the best live experiences of all time. Springsteen, The Stones, The Who, Zeppelin, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Dylan are all in my Top 10 so plenty of good company. Queen were the highlight but in the stadium the 2nd best experience of the day for me were The Beach Boys being beamed onto the big screen from Philadelphia. Everyone in the stadium was dancing and singing along to Californian Girls on a sunny July late afternoon so not completely unlike the ABBA scenario

Lol I think that JK has got a bit of sour grapes about live aid, because he wasn't involved in the broadcasting. A line up that strong will never come together ever again.

As for Abba voyage, all the reports from people that actually saw it have been very positive, although they've mainly been celebrities who probably had the best seats. What the experience is like from the back is another matter.

I bet Springsteen in New Jersey was something else...would LOVE to have seen that...

Voyage is quite extraordinary. Every second has been thought through and works - so each number is different. Under no circumstances leave before the end. This is gigs for the century and totally unlike those tired old events of the past century. As I watched Glastonbury (and as I watch events like The Brits, The Grammys, Eurovision, The Oscars) this is absolutely a hundred years ahead. If you've even vaguely interested in entertainment (as opposed to specifically "what you like") it is essential.

Wyot wrote:
I bet Springsteen in New Jersey was something else...would LOVE to have seen that...

You will like New Jersey Wyot. Crossing states from New York City to New Jersey is a nice drive.

If see an hoagy nearly thats almost 35 years old in New Jersey. Please hand it back to my pal Jim-Boy.

I am with you Robbie, I hate ABBA music (personal taste) but I wouldn't see any avatar gig, even if it was cheap.

I'm sure ABBA have a ton of sessions, demos and outtakes in old boxes they could release.

Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I bet Springsteen in New Jersey was something else...would LOVE to have seen that...

You will like New Jersey Wyot. Crossing states from New York City to New Jersey is a nice drive.

If see an hoagy nearly thats almost 35 years old in New Jersey. Please hand it back to my pal Jim-Boy.

I am with you Robbie, I hate ABBA music (personal taste) but I wouldn't see any avatar gig, even if it was cheap.

I'm sure ABBA have a ton of sessions, demos and outtakes in old boxes they could release.

I didn't say that I hated Abba, I like them. Whats not to like, great pop songs, good looks (at least two of them), I was just debating whether to pay £100+ to see computer generated images, which can be copied millions of times and played all around the world at the same time. I wouldn't be interested in Abba demos or sessions, if they were any good they would have already being released.

When you and GM get to see Voyage you'll understand Robbie. How a career can become 100% today. Spectacular.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I bet Springsteen in New Jersey was something else...would LOVE to have seen that...

You will like New Jersey Wyot. Crossing states from New York City to New Jersey is a nice drive.

If see an hoagy nearly thats almost 35 years old in New Jersey. Please hand it back to my pal Jim-Boy.

I am with you Robbie, I hate ABBA music (personal taste) but I wouldn't see any avatar gig, even if it was cheap.

I'm sure ABBA have a ton of sessions, demos and outtakes in old boxes they could release.

I didn't say that I hated Abba, I like them. Whats not to like, great pop songs, good looks (at least two of them), I was just debating whether to pay £100+ to see computer generated images, which can be copied millions of times and played all around the world at the same time. I wouldn't be interested in Abba demos or sessions, if they were any good they would have already being released.

I love raw demos and outtakes sometimes they are better than the released product. I wouldn't pay £10 or 10pence to see an avatar gig .

I hate ABBA music for numerous reasons buy ite just personal taste. (I am not a fan of pop, especially light pop) If you like them Robbie then fair play to you.

I did play the 1984 Chess album in the truck today.

A lot of Abba songs annoy me like a ticking clock, but I would go for curiosity.

JK2006 wrote:
When you and GM get to see Voyage you'll understand Robbie. How a career can become 100% today. Spectacular.


There's not enough money in the world for me to see anything to do with ABBA and to visit London. I hate that place.

I can think of better things to do with my time and money, like getting my hair done or watching my partner loading up a basket in a clothes shop.

She could of giving Michael Jordan a run for his money in his prime.

I think this sort of show will become even better. Currently they require the subjects to be digitally mapped and to create the movement etc. themselves. As technology improves I’m sure old video will be able to be used along with Artificial Intelligence software to reproduce new “live” imaging.

In medium term I only see the mega superstars getting the treatment and predict a Freddy Mercury fronted Queen concert will be next. As a quasi-live experience the audience participation and involvement is important. Anyone who has been to see the best tribute bands will know how much people are prepared to believe in what they are witnessing on the stage.

Oh they are way ahead BB - that's one reason why it's so good. The old video for Waterloo brings the house down. Every song - every moment - is different. And the sound is absolutely incredible - combining pre recorded and live playing works fantastically. This is the future and anyone interested in entertainment and not just in personal tastes needs to see it for that reason.

JK2006 wrote:
Oh they are way ahead BB - that's one reason why it's so good. The old video for Waterloo brings the house down. Every song - every moment - is different. And the sound is absolutely incredible - combining pre recorded and live playing works fantastically. This is the future and anyone interested in entertainment and not just in personal tastes needs to see it for that reason.

I agree these sort of shows will be part of the future of entertainment but the speed that this type of technology is developing there will be many improvements over the coming years