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I do agree that the benefits system needs to change. However the government has wasted billions on PPE and vanity projects.
Nobody wanted to be on furlough for 2 years nor did we ask for our businesses to close, some have gone for good.
Billions have gone to the boat people and millions to France and God knows what to Rwanada. Rwanda is and never going to happen, France took the money like the Mafia without doing anything in return.
The unemployed are easy targets like the disabled, I don't know anyone who is recruiting, I do get asked if I need a driver's mate. I could do with an assistant but I can't afford one.
I know hotels and clubs that have shut their doors for good. Some of them are now being converted in bedsits and tiny flats! If the Tories were to force people in to work, who are the Tories going to bribe to take millions people off from the dole in to employment?
If there were to do some sort of community service there needs to be safeguarding and make sure it goes with in employment or Human Rights laws. There would need to be a course on litter picking, those litter sticks probably hurt when being twatted with one.
Also a lot of charity shops are leaving the high street for eBay.
The unemployed are easy targets like the disabled,
Yep. This is a vile and incompetent Government. You know the Tories are on life support when they start on the unemployed. Not that I am voting for anyone else unless and until our politics develops from its current infantile state.
this is another populist move to get people angry and blame the unemployed on our economic situation. There are some people that want to live on benefits, but only a tiny minority. There are others that want to work, but can't because they can't afford child care and don't have any support network (i.e. parents living locally to look after children). There are others waiting for ops. We had a software tester working for us a couple of years ago during the lockdown. Once her probation period was over she kept taking off weeks at a time due to mental health issues after a trauma that she had been through. After a couple of months she was "let go" because her job wasn't been done. Was she making it up and just skiving, or was she genuinely incapable of working. I don't know I can't get inside her head.
About 5 years ago I had a couple of months between contracts and I claimed job seekers allowance during this period. The job centre was very hostile to anyone claiming benefits. The building is full of security guards, much more than the local nightclubs. The amount paid was £75.00 per week for about 6 weeks. I don't think the unemployed should be made to pick up litter or do other community work. This is an insurance after all. If you had a prang in your car knowone would expect you to work at Morrisons for a shift before you got your payout. The job centre already ask you to keep a record of all the jobs that you apply for which I did. If you fail to do this then you lose your benefits.
When you finish a professional job and become available the agents are calling you all the time. Once a couple of weeks have passed they call less and focus on the new people. If you haven't found a new position in a month then they ask "How come you haven't found a job yet?" The whole process can take a fews weeks (application, first interview, second interview etc.). The point is the longer that you have been unemployed the harder it is to get back into work.
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robbiex wrote: this is another populist move to get people angry and blame the unemployed on our economic situation. There are some people that want to live on benefits, but only a tiny minority. There are others that want to work, but can't because they can't afford child care and don't have any support network (i.e. parents living locally to look after children). There are others waiting for ops. We had a software tester working for us a couple of years ago during the lockdown. Once her probation period was over she kept taking off weeks at a time due to mental health issues after a trauma that she had been through. After a couple of months she was "let go" because her job wasn't been done. Was she making it up and just skiving, or was she genuinely incapable of working. I don't know I can't get inside her head.
About 5 years ago I had a couple of months between contracts and I claimed job seekers allowance during this period. The job centre was very hostile to anyone claiming benefits. The building is full of security guards, much more than the local nightclubs. The amount paid was £75.00 per week for about 6 weeks. I don't think the unemployed should be made to pick up litter or do other community work. This is an insurance after all. If you had a prang in your car knowone would expect you to work at Morrisons for a shift before you got your payout. The job centre already ask you to keep a record of all the jobs that you apply for which I did. If you fail to do this then you lose your benefits.
When you finish a professional job and become available the agents are calling you all the time. Once a couple of weeks have passed they call less and focus on the new people. If you haven't found a new position in a month then they ask "How come you haven't found a job yet?" The whole process can take a fews weeks (application, first interview, second interview etc.). The point is the longer that you have been unemployed the harder it is to get back into work.
I have never signed on but I know people who do and have done. It's a cruel regime, I had to lay staff during lockdown as I didn't get any furlough and no income. I had to give the staff some stockroom booze I had. It was only right to give them something apart from glowing references.
Out of interested I did go Indeed to see what jobs are around locally. All I could find was driving or lab techs vacancies, who need a car due to location.
If I was in charge of DWP, I could find a way to get to get be people retrained or apprenctinceships for all ages not just the young. Most supermarkets take on people on work experience way too oftern, it's pretty much free labour for them and they won't offer a job to them when it over.
Do they still do back to work courses Robbie? Which is bascially CV writing I am told.
Green Man wrote: robbiex wrote: this is another populist move to get people angry and blame the unemployed on our economic situation. There are some people that want to live on benefits, but only a tiny minority. There are others that want to work, but can't because they can't afford child care and don't have any support network (i.e. parents living locally to look after children). There are others waiting for ops. We had a software tester working for us a couple of years ago during the lockdown. Once her probation period was over she kept taking off weeks at a time due to mental health issues after a trauma that she had been through. After a couple of months she was "let go" because her job wasn't been done. Was she making it up and just skiving, or was she genuinely incapable of working. I don't know I can't get inside her head.
About 5 years ago I had a couple of months between contracts and I claimed job seekers allowance during this period. The job centre was very hostile to anyone claiming benefits. The building is full of security guards, much more than the local nightclubs. The amount paid was £75.00 per week for about 6 weeks. I don't think the unemployed should be made to pick up litter or do other community work. This is an insurance after all. If you had a prang in your car knowone would expect you to work at Morrisons for a shift before you got your payout. The job centre already ask you to keep a record of all the jobs that you apply for which I did. If you fail to do this then you lose your benefits.
When you finish a professional job and become available the agents are calling you all the time. Once a couple of weeks have passed they call less and focus on the new people. If you haven't found a new position in a month then they ask "How come you haven't found a job yet?" The whole process can take a fews weeks (application, first interview, second interview etc.). The point is the longer that you have been unemployed the harder it is to get back into work.
I have never signed on but I know people who do and have done. It's a cruel regime, I had to lay staff during lockdown as I didn't get any furlough and no income. I had to give the staff some stockroom booze I had. It was only right to give them something apart from glowing references.
Out of interested I did go Indeed to see what jobs are around locally. All I could find was driving or lab techs vacancies, who need a car due to location.
If I was in charge of DWP, I could find a way to get to get be people retrained or apprenctinceships for all ages not just the young. Most supermarkets take on people on work experience way too oftern, it's pretty much free labour for them and they won't offer a job to them when it over.
Do they still do back to work courses Robbie? Which is bascially CV writing I am told.
Five years ago they did back to work courses, from what I remember. Also after 3 months they review your situation. So for 3 months you have to look for a job in your profession, after that you have to look for any job. I beleive that this is now only 1 month. The whole process of seeking and finding a professional job can take over a month with application, 1st interview, 2nd interview, and then decision. I think 1 month is too short. It doesn't serve the economy well for professional people to be working in supermarkets or other unskilled work.
robbiex wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]robbiex wrote: It doesn't serve the economy well for professional people to be working in supermarkets or other unskilled work.
It serves the economy better for anyone to be working, paying taxes and not claiming benefits. I don't see why "professional" people should be entitled over "non professional" people to select what work they take up.
I'd go and work on a supermarket checkout to feed my children; and would make the most of it.
robbiex wrote: Green Man wrote: robbiex wrote: this is another populist move to get people angry and blame the unemployed on our economic situation. There are some people that want to live on benefits, but only a tiny minority. There are others that want to work, but can't because they can't afford child care and don't have any support network (i.e. parents living locally to look after children). There are others waiting for ops. We had a software tester working for us a couple of years ago during the lockdown. Once her probation period was over she kept taking off weeks at a time due to mental health issues after a trauma that she had been through. After a couple of months she was "let go" because her job wasn't been done. Was she making it up and just skiving, or was she genuinely incapable of working. I don't know I can't get inside her head.
About 5 years ago I had a couple of months between contracts and I claimed job seekers allowance during this period. The job centre was very hostile to anyone claiming benefits. The building is full of security guards, much more than the local nightclubs. The amount paid was £75.00 per week for about 6 weeks. I don't think the unemployed should be made to pick up litter or do other community work. This is an insurance after all. If you had a prang in your car knowone would expect you to work at Morrisons for a shift before you got your payout. The job centre already ask you to keep a record of all the jobs that you apply for which I did. If you fail to do this then you lose your benefits.
When you finish a professional job and become available the agents are calling you all the time. Once a couple of weeks have passed they call less and focus on the new people. If you haven't found a new position in a month then they ask "How come you haven't found a job yet?" The whole process can take a fews weeks (application, first interview, second interview etc.). The point is the longer that you have been unemployed the harder it is to get back into work.
I have never signed on but I know people who do and have done. It's a cruel regime, I had to lay staff during lockdown as I didn't get any furlough and no income. I had to give the staff some stockroom booze I had. It was only right to give them something apart from glowing references.
Out of interested I did go Indeed to see what jobs are around locally. All I could find was driving or lab techs vacancies, who need a car due to location.
If I was in charge of DWP, I could find a way to get to get be people retrained or apprenctinceships for all ages not just the young. Most supermarkets take on people on work experience way too oftern, it's pretty much free labour for them and they won't offer a job to them when it over.
Do they still do back to work courses Robbie? Which is bascially CV writing I am told.
Five years ago they did back to work courses, from what I remember. Also after 3 months they review your situation. So for 3 months you have to look for a job in your profession, after that you have to look for any job. I beleive that this is now only 1 month. The whole process of seeking and finding a professional job can take over a month with application, 1st interview, 2nd interview, and then decision. I think 1 month is too short. It doesn't serve the economy well for professional people to be working in supermarkets or other unskilled work.
Where I live if you don't drive you are stuck. The buses here are not very good, buses here go to towns which are pretty much catered for students. So bars, nightclubs and shops is pretty much all there is;if they are jobs that come up the Uni students get in first.
DWP need to understand that employers look at canidates addresses and ask them about transport etc.
I wouldn't mind doing litter picking if I had to, at least it's outdoors which I love, people could sneer all they want it's better than being a roid-raged bully boy baliff or traffic warden. Then again I would be happy having a paper round.
I agree Wyot if you are married or have children your mindset changes a lot.
Remember YTS in the early 1980's? The so called Youth Training Scheme.
I was taken complete advantage of on that and totally exploited. I feel very angry when I look back to it now.
In 1985 I worked a 5 day week starting at 8am until 5.30pm Monday to Friday in a decent sized engineering firm doing well for itself with plenty of international orders on the books and full of work. For that lengthy working week I was paid the grand sum of £20 which came to me mid morning every Friday from the petty cash tin from the company secretary. When I got home I had to give my mum half of it, so was left with just a tenner to my name for a full working week. Ten quid! I used to get driven in by my father so couldn't claim travel expenses either but after a few months decided to tell them I was coming in by taxi which I was able to make almost double my petty cash weekly wages. They never asked for a receipt as proof so I could get away with it.
At one point they even tried to get me in working on Saturdays too.
After a year and almost non existent training and simply being used I was out. There was no job, no nothing there. They had a couple of other young guys the same. I was probably replaced by another 17 year old getting paid from petty cash for another year.
A whole generation of youngsters were treated like this, and I left school with piles of O levels and actually did have a brain like so many others.
The government does not have your best interests at heart.
It seems like we are going back to the attitudes of the 19th century. There is something quite morally repugnant about the two richest MP's in the House Of Commons, The PM Sunak and Chancellor Hunt leading a government making threats to the very poorest and unwell in society from their own positions of exceptional wealth and privilege.
Meanwhile this same government has burned through and wasted taxpayers money like £37,000,000,000 on the Covid app. 37 BILLION! You need all those noughts to realsie the obscene amount. Now they are coming for those least able to answer back to pay the price.
It seems like we are going back to the attitudes of the 19th century. There is something quite morally repugnant about the two richest MP's in the House Of Commons, The PM Sunak and Chancellor Hunt leading a government making threats to the very poorest and unwell in society from their own positions of exceptional wealth and privilege.
It is very similar to the "deserving" and "undeserving" poor isn't it. Classic Tory distraction picking on these groups, staging a flight to Rwanda, just as an election is coming and they are facing annihilation. And I agree the amount of our money this Gov has utterly wasted is breathtaking. Not only nasty but incompetent with it.
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