You just could not make it up - could you!?

The man in charge of the government's sex offenders database is convicted of child porn -

www.express.co.uk/posts/view/44731/Proba...ief-jailed-over-porn

Amazing but let's not believe everything we read in the papers - or what is "proved" in the courts.

I've now seen enough to know - if "they" want to set you up (for whatever reasons) they can and will do so.

And this area of "offence" is easier to do it (and more emotive) than any other.

Sometimes ITK, they DO "make it up".

Priceless, love the irony

I heard a senior police officer say that "paedophiles" often try to make their way into jobs where they have easy access to children and porn or where they can get details of child abuse cases. Maybe this is why several "public protection" officers have been convicted of child sex offences.

But I agree with JK's note of caution. We should not believe everything we hear. Society is so screwed up by this obsession that judgements are often clouded or, on occasions, prejudiced.

I think his admission of guilt seems to prove he is guilty.

What it does show is that if those IN CHARGE of the SEX OFFENDERS part of the JUSTICE SYSTEM are themselves potential Paedophiles then that sums it up.

The whole "Terrorism and Child Abuse" emotional "bogeyman/women" card is what NEW LABOUR and the police are using to actually replace real policing about crime.

Child abuse usually happens within families. Much of it is because of poverty. The Government has ignored most of it - and the Police and Social Services always shout "we have not got the resources" and "we are overworked" - yet they have time to pursue "celebrities" almost round the clock.

The question I would ask is this :

Does going to prison help this man to rebuild his life so he does not reoffend ?

Surely he needs therapy for his Porn addiction ( which obviously includes Children ) - but being humiliated like this in public and put in a Prison is hardly likely to make him safer to release at the end of his sentence.

We seem to be locking up little old ladies for Council Tax debt - and dirty old men for looking at dirty and disgusting photos..........yet a Murderer walked out of a prison yesterday....and when you ring the Police they can never do anything about anything or they just dont have the resources to attend.

The Police have lost the respect of the public. They have given up their right to respect.

Now we see New Labour's New Super Computers being run by actual Sex Offenders.

The LOONIES have taken over the ASYLUM !

JK2006 wrote:

Sometimes ITK, they DO "make it up".

Agreed, JK - but usually they don't make it up about the people who are supposed to be doing the "protecting" LOL !

I've always had suspicions about people who "volunteer" to look through the mucky photos (just to make sure they are mucky enough!)

BR wrote:

The Police have lost the respect of the public. They have given up their right to respect.

The LOONIES have taken over the ASYLUM !

Agree with all you say - and don't forget the corruption is endemic (and all the way to the top).

In the last few weeks TWO Chief Constables have gone - one for fiddling his expenses, and sending "suspect" e mails (N Wales) and the Manchester one who killed himself in Snowdonia (because the media were about to reveal his past).

Remember also the many others who, when found out, simply "retire" on "health grounds" to prevent further action (and protect their pensions).

BR - NEVER fall for the "he's pleaded guilty so he must be" attitude!

I refused to plead guilty and got 7 years instead of 2.

Lawyers, judges, police, CPS all LOVE guilty pleas by innocent men or women and try to push for them all the time.

The argument is - "you may be innocent but you will be found guilty so plead and get half the sentence".

I HATE it!

I know little about the case, but it is quite obvious that bad "history" etc , would inevitably be found on his hard drive as a result of his job.

Point taken JK

Why is our JUSTICE system in such a mess ?

Why are those who are meant to be protecting us from crime actually the CRIMINALS !!

It defies belief.

Has it always been like this and basically as a society we have never questioned it before ?

The Drug gangs run the streets in London yet the Police never stop them. All of us have been offered drugs as we walk down main streets in London I am sure.....how do these people get away with this ( and their masters )

Yet the Police spend loads of time chasing and harassing innocent people who from time to time come into their clutches.

Only in the last 7 days the papers have reported on APPLE CORE prosecutions ( which is a growing crime area - the Police are arresting people who are eating and then charging them with dropping litter - often with no evidence - they offer a caution but they capture the DNA - Fingerprints and get a Clear Up Rate ! )

The way in which New Labour has organised the Police must have something to do with it.

The Police seem to get more pay if they attack celebs ( Pete and Amy are ill - they need help not to be followed around by the police ) and ignore real criminals ( They did NOTHING about Ian Huntley for instance - yet at the same time they were chasing other celebs around )

It stinks.

BR wrote:

Why is our JUSTICE system in such a mess ?

It stinks.

The police learnt long ago how to manipulate the system.
They are ruled by statistics and want to be "shown" to be doing the job and achieving something (but very rarely are).

So ... chase-up a 30 year old case and there is little chance that there will be any evidence left (and highly unlikely that the defendant will even remember where he / she was !)

Then there are those wonderful "terror" cases - lots of extra powers and you can keep people locked-up UNTIL you've invented some "evidence" !

Also persue motorists ... motoring offences do not exist until they are solved - no one goes into a police station and says Ha Ha - I just did 40 in a 30 zone and got away with it, so there is no "unsolved" crime, is there?) However ... when the police catch someone speeding they "create" a crime and "solve" it at the same time - which is excellent for their statistics.

EG -
Town has 2 burglaries - naturally no one will ever get caught - clear-up rate = 0%
Town has 2 burglaries, police then persue 8 motorists - clear up rate = 80%

VOILA !

I tend to agree here and actually, I find the idea of "looking" at a photograph to be a crime quite a bizarre aspect. Even though these may be horrible pics. I mean actually just looking and making that a crime is pretty weird if you ask me.

I know the logic used-that by "looking" or downloading is creating the crime but I reckon that is just a load of hype. Most of these child porn sites are supposed to be run by US or Russian crooks and they just use the same old stuff time and time again.

Actually procuring kids and producing new porn of course should be a crime that carries serious penalties..but even with adult porn the internet is awash with sites that are just rip-offs of other site's productions.

As to JK saying don't trust what you are hearing straight off-I had dined with a fairly well know barrister who specilizes in criminal defences just a week ago-and he reckons up to 45% of police either lie or exagerate in the witness box.