All prime examples of the new thinking in the police - media plus cops plus celebrity make a great story and the police can get away with murder.

I predicted this exactly eight years ago.

I genuinely believe, as drama unfolds, more and more people will see the investigations into the false allegations in my case as a watershed in social morality.

The worst example of all, of course, being David Kelly's murder.

But the destruction of Sally Clark, Barry George, Sion Jenkins and others should be observed as well.

Those of the names of those the press have covered. I would not be suprised if the real figures of these allegation based political show arrests/cases run into the many thousands.

The anti - terror legislation ( which is used for almost any offence from bins - to school admissions - to hecklers - to the opposition MPs ) has allowed the Police almost unlimited powers to arrest with no evidence.

In addition the creation of the largest DNA database in the World means that "Viruses" could be developed to take out millions of UK citizens if that information is available to the Government scientists who work on creating biological warfare.

The DNA database added a Tory MP on Friday - and that shows that all of us are targets.

Dr Kelly's case is the most blatant - a murder of someone who stood in the way of THE WAR which the NWO wanted to start their plan. If KELLY had been left alive then then history may well have taken a different course.

All the others hassled have been done so to create "stories" to cover up the real truth of what is happening to society in the UK. It has also followed a pattern which is now used by the Police in order for them to "justify" their unlawful actions. Government legislation has allowed a level of control by the Police which should never be allowed in a free country.

As said before - we are living in dangerous times. Whether David Icke is totally right or not - or whether this is a planned situation by a NWO or the top people in the world - does not really matter. What matters is that all of us stick together and ask questions of what is happening around us - and continue to ask questions. Together we are strong - divided we will be easy to defeat.

Any actual evidence for all those sensational claims BR?

I think what you ask for is reasonable but at the same time-to expect a person to give concrete proof is asking the impossible.

All people can do is to continually point to the numerous events that indicate police have become a "political force".

The whole 'pedo' debate is one classic example. The rediculous Isle of Mann debacle is a prime example-and the endless arrests and sensationalising of cases involving sex.

I've worked as a journalist,on and off for the past 40 years in the UK and Australia and I often visit the USA for my work. I've never seen a similar era to today (in all 3 countries) where the police now routinely manipulate public thinking and that thinking reflects the ideals (or non-ideals) of a number of entrenched political parties.

When I started this work at age 18-research was everything. Now a press release is all that matters, I am continually amazed how today's so-called 'journalists" simply rely on a press release-whether corporate, government or from the police-for a story and do no fact checking.

Again-the House of Horrors is a classic example of today's media and police at work. It was reported world-wide in the most alarming headlines which raged for about 4 weeks. Now when I ask-not only do people not even remember the (non) case, those who do cannot recall reading the lastest developments ie: that it was all rubbish.

In this way we have a section of society that can be usefully pointed to as the "worst of the worst" (ie sex offendors) and therefore restrictive new laws are continually required to control them.

'Terrorism" serves the same purpose.

As an avid reader and researcher of WW2 ( which I've done a lot of for film projects) the co-operation between the government and a supposedly independent media and police force resembles how the Nazis controlled public thinking during the rise of the Wehrmacht during the 1930's.

(incidently-the propaganda minister Josef Goebbels is often credited with being the inventor of the current PR industry)

However, today it is far more sophisticated.

All one can do is point to hundred's of examples.Concrete evidence may not be available until it is too late.

The whole situation in the UK today reminds me of the story where a witch poisoned the only well in a town. Everyone who drank from the well became insane, and soon there was only one sane man in the town. He had his own spring, so was spared the curse. He tried to convince the townsfolk that they had been bewitched and that they were now insane, but they believed that the water in the well had given them wisdom. They told him that if he would only drink from the well he would be as sane as the rest of them. He resisted, but found himself more and more isolated until, in despair, he drank from the well so that he could rejoin his community. Then they all lived happily everafter.

Regarding the "House of Horror" Jersey fiasco the officer(s) involved are being held to account.

Even if they were not it is not an indicator of the British police being a "political force".

The general public being unaware of the corrected version of events the media portray is woefully consistent and so prevalent that's it is not a notable factor in the Jersey case.

Cherry-picking and presenting with no context bits of information to fit a preconceived bias is not the way to truth.

Anecdote is not evidence and if there is no evidence that a thing is true what is the reasonable conclusion?

Goebbels's methods in WW2, as he concedes in his diary, were flawed.

That to one side, Edward Bernays has the far far stronger calm to being the founder of modern PR and propaganda.

there is sense in what you say but as in the online argument I am having with a colleuague re: what the German people knew of the Nazi atrocities-most of the information at the time whispered between people was 'anecdotal', hence my claim that one day it may be too late.

The matter of whether a police force has become 'politicised' isn't as cut and dried as you imply.

By it's very nature a police force is 'political' in that it enforces laws enacted in Parliament, by politicians. It's the seperation of powers that is important and whether police act impatially.

I would suggest the House of Horrors is the ultimate example of police feeling immune from scrutiny and that doesn't happen in isolation. It's a culture that's been bred over time and a police force feeling it will always have the backing of polticians and the media (while it suits)

Police forces have always been used to achieve political aims. During the miner's strikes of the 70's Margaret Thatcher used the police to achieve her desired outcome-and the police themselves used a variety of illegal actions which were never reported in the mainstream media. Often solo policemen didn't even know they were commiting illegal acts at the time, they were simply acting as ordered.

Often these same police would sympathise with the miners and their families. Not everyone has to be in on the 'plot'.

Will the House of Horrors police be eventually held to account ?

I doubt it-they never have in the past.

From my own experiences from police lieing in court cases and manipulating evidence to secure convictions of innocent persons to the highly publcised cases of recent years including supposed IRA bombers and convicted murderers whose cases have been overturned where it is obvious police have conspired criminally to jail a person, I cannot recall one policeman being charged with perverting the course of justice despite condemnation from a judge.

Complete absence of any Jews would have been a good indicator that something was going on. It wasn't purely anecdotal.

As we are not living under conditions of war your example is an unfair comparison. Besides that it doesn't support all anecdote as being true.

Previously you wrote the police force "...have become a political force." Now you you're witting they always have been, I'm afraid I'm missing your point here as you seem to be contradictory and confused.

Crystal Nacht Zoo? Lots of Jews around. Even until the end of the war - though many were in camps. What was the name of that "paradise" the Nazis created for the Jews (and the meeejah, who knew a good story when they were given one)?

I don't go along with a lot of BR's theories but I do feel you tend to go the other way Zoo (ooh Matron).

Crystal Nacht was not anecdotal.

You feel I tend to go the other way yet all I ask for is some evidence to support BR's sensational claims, am I being unreasonable?

my friend's grandma died in Auschwitz- don't think that was anecdotal.

To many it was anecdotal and I bet in Germany it was justified and explained and reasoned away in the meejah... as all the early anti semitic Nazi stuff was; only very slowly did Jews begin to realise they should get out and sadly most never did.

I suspect we are in a similar situation here - first it's terrorists and paedos and real criminals, then innocent people nudged into those categories, then targeted people who need to be silenced... it can be a slippery slope.

No, I don't think there's a Hitler emerging. No, I don't go along with the conspiracy theories. But I do think, as a species, we have lost our way and are in grave danger of blowing it.

good post, Mr King.

Thank you David - and I bet, sadly, the signs your friend's grandma may have missed would have been anecdotal.

"No, that cannot really be happening...".

We all want to believe everything is alright.

The worst moment in my life (other than my Mum dying) was when it dawned on me the police did not want the truth - just my high profile conviction.

I really believed (fool) that they were on the side of truth.

I do feel these ever more frequent comparisons with Nazi's and Stalin make the poster look absurd and insult those who actually suffered under those regimes.

The connection with our society is not even as good as tenuous.

There are problems with our society but to make uninformed exaggerations and childishly crying wolf is not the sensible way to address it.

If our views are not founded in reality then we are as bad as the ignorance and folly that we decry.

No-one is-as far as I can see-comparing current events with the Nazis, but I believe pointing out elements of fascism.

However where one draws the line as to who was worst-6 million Jews dead-Stalin or a millon innocents dead during the Iraq War is very complex.

For instance-in the 3 western countries I spend the most time in I see no monuments to the 22 million Russians (11 millon infantry) who died helping us defeat the Nazis. Instead, the Allies ceated a "cold war" to turn them into the enemy.

One can see parallels in history though. It was easier for the Nazis to control public information as they simply took over Germany's extensive newspaper publishing industry-murdering editors and replacing them with their own editors or the like-minded.

Thus when many Germans witnessed he open savagery of KristalNacht, it was easy for many to believe the absence of Jews was because they were being transported for their own safety to Madagascar or some other nonsensical story.

There were no publc anouncements of concentration camps or news reels or well researched articles featuring the death camps and ovens-so all information was second hand ie: anecdotal.

People turned a blind eye or simply didn't believe it was happening. It's human nature. And what could they have done ?. Nothing more than the British people( the majority) or Americans did when their governments invaded Iraq on lies. Or they could forment a revoltion.

Indeed the American commander who was first into Auschwitch ordered filming of the camp and the remaining inmates as he did not think he would be believed.

'No problem' claims my friend as Winston Churhill gave a speech in '38 detailing abuses against Jews. Winston was correct as was my friend in pointing it out. However where these 'anecdotes' even if he gave proof (over the radio ?) and why would the majority of German citizens be listening to or understand a speech in English from Churchill?. Particularly as the German meia was nobled by then.

And more damning-would Britain have allowed all of German and Poland's Jews in as asylum seekers ?.

One uses history-and more recent history to try and learn from mistakes-or one doesn't-or one has to plough through the variety of re-written vesions of history.

There is important differnece we can learn from comparing the media of today with that of 60 years ago-today the media is self controlled and often pushes and uses politicians into adopting certain viewpoints.

What has the House of Horrors got to do with a 'politicised' police force and BR's claims that police can now trawl your private life via computer and every other aspect of your life, when before they need court warrants etc.

It has everything to do with it. Jersey was just another in a long string of travesties using "child protection" as an all encompassing excuse to commit terrible acts upon innocent persons. You need to read Richard Webster's well documented books and features to see how many innocent social workers have been jailed ( and finally released)or have commited suicide.

Nothing will happen to any officer , senior or lower in this case. Reports will be produced and recomendations will be made and ignored and the media wins both ways-with the original story and the expose. Plus the media will continue to hound some defenceless mother who commits a small welfare fraud and tsk tsk about the cost of Jersey and those who perpetuated the charade will retire on pensions.

How many psychology lessons do you need to know people can be softened up by a series of processes where in the end, they will accept any version of the truth ?.

And the police ?...I subscribe to Betrand Russell's view of them..there are 2 types of people...one who sees a policeman and thinks he is my friend, the other who thinks he is my enemy. And h wasn't talking from the viewpoint of the Kray twins.

Personally I would question anyone who seeks power over another person and the ability to enforce that power-especially given the likehood of them being caught perpetuating their own illegal act upon another person is small.

Of course there will be honest and well meaning police and politicians but I would need to see them with my own eyes first. The one who acts kindly to me may not do so to my neighbour.

Anecodotes?...being Jewish I say shmanecdotes..if it walks and talks like a duck etc etc..

We must also remember that the Parliamentary All Party Select Committee on false allegations of child abuse found that there are serious falws in the system and likely to be a large number of wrongly convicted persons (mostly men). Their report and recommendations were supressed by the government who then changed the laws to make it even easier to convict without evidence.

Labour MP Claire Curtis Thomas has continuously challenged the goverbment on this issue, and has expressed her frustration at their lack of willingness to even consider the evidence put before them. They give more powers to the police and turn a blind eye to miscarriages of justice.

I believe Richard Webster has also written about this matter.

Ah, the mighty Clare - thanks for reminding me Al; I must send her a Xmas card.