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#42201
Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_detection

Was wondering how useful taking a lie detector could be in my own defence against false allegations.
If anybody would like to add their experience/opinion I'd be grateful.
 
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#42204
Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Don't bother IA - I asked to take one when my case started and was told it would not be accepted in court - it is so fallible.

However now the system is trying to make parolees take one to see if they want to abuse.

The law as usual is - anything that proves an innocent person innocent is not allowed.
If it helps prove an innocent person guilty - it's OK.
 
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#42206
Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Did you mean the court won't allow it? Or can I pay and take one,then present the evidence via my barrister?
 
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#42207
Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
You can ask your solicitor but 9 years ago I got a giant NO - the court will not allow it to be presented.
 
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#42225
veritas

Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
depends if there is to be publicity or not.

I see Jeremy Bamber who has been trying to prove his innocence after being jailed for 5 horrific murders has passed a lie detector test with flying colours.

www.innocent.org.uk/index.html

To me-it seems to have set the tone for the last Daily Mail feature with the journalist sounding far more sceptical about the original conviction.

I remember this case so well and how I believed everything the tabloids said. Their amoral perversion of stories is a disgrace.

For the record-I got involved with lie detector experiments at a University. I lied..and the emachine detected it. A friend says he lied and the machine didn't.

No British court will accept the results though..they are used more in the US where lawyers and prosecutors battle for public opinion in the media.

I had no idea the probation service wanted to use them JK..they are as corrupt as any public body can be Use a lie detector on them first, I say !
 
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#42236
The Cat

Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Two things come to mind regarding lie detectors.

Are modern machines capable of telling the difference between someone who is lying and someone who is nervous?

If there is a plan to use lie detectors on parolees, how do they get around the right to silence? Surely, they cannot force someone to answer questions.
 
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#42237
Foz

Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
Lie detectors are also used prolifically on the Jeremy Kyle Show which waters down their gravitas even further!
 
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#42257
veritas

Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
The Cat wrote:
Two things come to mind regarding lie detectors.

Are modern machines capable of telling the difference between someone who is lying and someone who is nervous?

If there is a plan to use lie detectors on parolees, how do they get around the right to silence? Surely, they cannot force someone to answer questions.


the right to silence is being gradually eroded.

and if you don't want to talk to your parole officer about a crime..they write down that you are 'in denial'.
 
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#42296
Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
The short answer is that lie detectors simply don't work.

Although as most people think they do (Courtesy of US TV shows ) if you can suggest to a jury you're willing to take one may help... that's a big "if"
 
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#42546
andrew

Re:Lie detection 15 Years, 2 Months ago  
How can you use them on chat shows to see who having a affair but when it comes to someone who is going to spend time in jail for the wrong reasons gets refused.

I like to see what more evidence there is of Bamber who passed the test over 2 years ago.
 
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