The first five minutes and now I am convinced the bombing was an inside job.

The documents were found to ID the bombers almost instantly.....which would be impossible in such an explosion.

The hilarious rebuttal on the BBC is that the bombers threw their documents away from the bomb ? er....would that not have drawn attention to them if they suddenly threw a driving licence across a train or bus ?

In any case if they were carrying out the attacks they would not have carried any ID.

Stinks. Rachel North is a GOVERNMENT STOOGE by the way. A dangerous LEFT WING activist. She wrote for the BBC a diary during the week slagging off the Tories and anyone else.....shocking.

MI5 or the NWO are responsible for the bombings. This programme has now proved that. I am now shocked because I have always thought it was strange but probably a real attack.

what is your proof, BR, that Rachel North is a "stooge"- proof please. Writing stuff attacking the Tories is proof of nothing.

Sorry, but I think you have gone too far. What you say is appalling andoffensive.

Proof please (if you know what that word means).

Thought it was mixed and strange BR - not convinced either way.

The BBC have made a film where most of their sources AGAINST the FRAMING of the suspects do not exist. It is their "opinion"

Incredible reporting and has now proved to me that the 7.7 bombings were an inside job.

It is very funny how I dont believe Conspiracy Theorists because they dont have any evidence - the evidence to prove their theory comes from ham fisted attempts to cover up.

I challenge RACHEL NORTH here publicly on JK's forum to a public debate chaired by JK in which I will show that she is a Government Stooge and reveal facts about WHAT IS TRULY going on.

I know that RACHEL NORTH will not take up this challenge because she is the leader of the cover up - a classic plant at the scene of the crime in order to protect the project.

She knows this - her "words" on this programme ( She started writing for the BBC on day one after the bombings....funny that ) on highly emotive and anti anyone who disagrees with her. That is sooooo suspicious.

Finally - they ridicule anyone who disagrees with the Official !!!!!

and they have ARRESTED the person who has made the 7.7 RIPPLE EFFECT. See - Freedom of Speech is over - you get arrested if you tell the truth. Case proved.

We are in DEEP TROUBLE in the UK. We are in the hands of an EVIL GOVERNMENT - and I warn everyone to bear this in mind. Whatever you think about what we are dealing with TIMES IT BY 100 and you get near to the truth about WHAT we are dealing with.

Just by writing this tonight means I am more exposed than I have been for over a year since the last time I was "arrested".......they have arrested me on the way home for work for stealing my own car......and apologised afterwards - but not after surrounding me with Police and bruising me and so on - not very pleasant.

THEY read these forums - THEY are aware about what we say. But if we all start to question the Official Story and stand by the TRUTH - Love is only thing we should strive for in life. I urge everyone to look through this programme and some of the silly theories to the REAL truth which is also there.....

Erm... were you watching the same pogramme as me, BR? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I wanted so much {sorry for the Karen Matthews impersonation, JK} to learn something of interest from it and I indeed did. It wasn't what I wanted to hear, but it was useful to see the view from the other side of the fence. The cynicism of the Ripple Effect DVD is truly breathtaking, something which must offend any decent human being. I'm far from convinced that this government is as clean as a whistle. But I'm satisfied that the truthfulness of Ripple Effect has been seriously and successfully challenged. It's important to remember one maxim; Be open minded, but not so much so that your brain falls out... Ripple Effect 7.7 is a lie. And you may take it from me that I'm not a government stooge.

Of course the Ripple Effect is not all true. I certainly laughed at the Peter Power and Jewish stuff. That is conspiracy theory.

The problem that I have is that outside of the Ripple Effect EVERY FACT pointed to the fact that the bombers were not on the trains - especially not the Luton to London 7.40a.m train ( which goes past my house ) - because it had been cancelled.

I take it you can explain that one ? That was in the Government Official Report into the Event which had taken a YEAR to compile. The authorititive version.

That in itself is a bigger lie than the whole of the RIPPLE EFFECT. In fact it makes the RIPPLE EFFECT totally redundant.

If they were not on that train ( then how could they have had the CCTV showing them getting onto it - faked as was shown - or the CCTV at Kings Cross at the time they needed to be there )

The nastiest person on the programme was certainly Rachel North - though I could not believe that PETER POWER ( ex Police ) LAUGHED live on TV about the disaster - when people were dying on the streets of London......

The Ripple Effect was an amateur attempt to ask questions. It failed on several levels. But the REAL STORY by the BBC and the REAL FACTS are disgraceful and shocking to say the least.

I am sure you are not a Government stooge like Rachel North ( suggest you read her blogs and then you would know what a Government stooge writes like ) but even you must admit the evidence from

1, The Train being non existent

2, The faked CCTV photo

3. The ID being found to ID the terrorists ( one terrorist had 2 ID in 2 places )

4. The eye witnesses saying on tape that the explosion came from under the floor ( backed up with some of the photos which clearly showed the floor going upwards )

Finally - do you remember the photos of the carriages in the press ?

A bomb which did so much damage INSIDE the carriage would have created holes in the sides of the train ( like the bomb on the bus ripped it open like a can ) YET BECAUSE these bombs were UNDER the trains the carriages were totally intact except the windows.....can you explain that - the photos were in the papers. In fact there was some video on You Tube which showed one of the explosions which showed white light but it seemed to come from below as well.

I dont believe conspiracy theorist videos. I look for eye witness evidence or hard facts to make up my mind on.

I believed the Official Story up until today. No longer do I accept the whole story. I thank the BBC and their Stooge for opening my eyes and to the authors of the Ripple Effect for showing me that facts are better than fantasy when it comes to deciding.

There are TWO FANTASY versions of the event - The Ripple Effect and The Government Theory. Neither have the hard facts and both seem to be contradicted by the eye witness reports on this programme.

still no proof BR

someone writing anti-tory stuff a day after being involved in 7/7 may see bizarre, but tha is it.

where is the proof?

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I didn't see the programme, but I think I'd need more than five minutes of one TV programme to convince me one way or the other.

JK2006 wrote:
Thought it was mixed and strange BR - not convinced either way.

I've just seen it on my iPhone in a cold bath, so I could seriously concentrate on it.

I thought it was no different to 7/7 Ripple Effect or any of the 'conspiracy' documentaries, and indeed with it's total agreement for the Government's own 'conspiracy theory', it basically is as useful as those who argue it.

In any case, would you expect the BBC to come against the Government's own report? Of course not.

The whole idea about "the bombers throwing away their ID so that they could be identified" was just ludicrous and came across as very, very silly, but you know, the sheeple out there will accept it because the BBC said it.

I don't accept Maud Dib's doc, or David Shaylers, and I certainly don't accept the BBC's either. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Just sensationalism TV, nothing more.

mikemacca wrote:
Just sensationalism TV, nothing more.

It's what Chris Morris said in Brass Eye ten years ago:
"We will be telling you what to think, next."

Locked Out wrote:
Erm... were you watching the same pogramme as me, BR? It certainly doesn't sound like it. I wanted so much {sorry for the Karen Matthews impersonation, JK} to learn something of interest from it and I indeed did. It wasn't what I wanted to hear, but it was useful to see the view from the other side of the fence. The cynicism of the Ripple Effect DVD is truly breathtaking, something which must offend any decent human being. I'm far from convinced that this government is as clean as a whistle. But I'm satisfied that the truthfulness of Ripple Effect has been seriously and successfully challenged. It's important to remember one maxim; Be open minded, but not so much so that your brain falls out... Ripple Effect 7.7 is a lie. And you may take it from me that I'm not a government stooge.

Like Loose Change 2nd Edition, which was totally ludicrous with a suggestion that all the passengers from all the planes all got out at a airport before they put up "clone" planes to hit the Twin Towers.

Ripple Effect has it's moments to make you think, but it does have those crazy moments like Loose Change that makes you weary.