Each week DAVID ICKE writes his newsletter about World issues.

This week this is what he finishes by saying :

"I am in the process of uncovering some extraordinary information that makes so much sense of what is happening in the world and this will really cook the noodle of the Irish Coalition and the 'young peoples' website'.

If they think ruling families and shapeshifting Reptilians are too much to compute, wait till my next book comes out and the talk in London next May. As the man said: 'You've seen nothing yet'." David Icke

Looks as if he is about to throw his "Cards on the table" and I for one cant wait to see what he really thinks about the current situation in the world because he has been quiet on most things for the last year apart from the Big Brother State and Swine Flu.

Could this be the DISCLOSURE that the whole world is waiting for - perhaps he will throw light on the STAR UFOs or the MCKINNON case ?

As JK says in another thread - something is going on. I agree. Lets hope DAVID ICKE has got his finger on the pulse of things and can highlight what is really going on.

Problem with David Icke.....is that he's David Icke.

How can you take anything this man says seriously, after declaring that he is the "Son of God" and saying that the Royal family were all lizards.

The man is clearly deluded.

You claim he is deluded.

1. Have you read his books ?

2. Have you checked the work in his books against other known facts - writers.

3. Have you met him ?


How can you claim a man is deluded on the basis of a TV interview nearly 20 years ago ?

Do you call everyone who you dont agree with "deluded" or crazy ?

I suggest you are totally deluded if you can claim that David Icke is deluded - if you have not answered YES to the three things above.

It shows that you make judgements about people without looking into the facts and without ever either reading their work or meeting them.

In addition if all your "views" are from the media - then I would additionally suggest that you are brainwashed as well. You believe everything in the press is true ( when it suits you ) without ever checking out its authenticity.


This is the reason why we are becoming a nation of brainwashed sheep - we have given up deciding for ourselves preferring the STATE CONTROLLED TV and PRESS to tell us what to think.

I bet you think that the economy is improving or bottoming out as well !!! ( Look at the stock market today and Northern Rock and the Unemployment figures for the trends )

David Icke - has been proved right many times over. His books are fascinating reads and much he predicted has come true.

I will give you an example of people who are deluded and I can prove it : Blair - Weapons of Mass Destruction - he believed this with NO evidence at all. Why ? must have had a mental breakdown or been drugged.

BROWN and DARLING - their financial predictions every year have been wrong for 3 years. Yet they are meant to be the experts. Why ? either they are deluded or lie intentionally.

Give me some hard evidence of ICKE being deluded. Show me the parts in his books which have been proved untrue. I have done that for BLAIR - DARLING and BROWN. So it is easy to prove when someone is genuinely deluded.

I have watched several of David Icke's films and on that basis say that he is deluded.

Icke does say some sensible things like the world is controlled by the media, which it is in a way.

However, this is just stating the obvious.

You say that we have become a nation of brain-washed sheep following the media. Well you seem to be brain-washed in following David Icke and his ideas.

I have heard David Icke re-iterate his Royal family are aliens statement on other interviews more recently, not just the wogan interview from the 80's.

but he comes across as so normal and convincing !

and didn't some rebel Rabbi 2000 years ago say we were all God's children ?

You have to admit that the Royal Family..and I love them..are pretty wacky !

robbiex wrote:
How can you take anything this man says seriously, after declaring that he is the "Son of God" and saying that the Royal family were all lizards.

The man is clearly deluded.

To be fair, he said we were all "Sons of a God(head)." And he did talk about his 'bonkers' period, that a lot of us do go through. I find Icke totally entertaining and an amazing speaker - some of what he says is pertinent and excellent, but yes, I find the lizard thing a bit, um myself.

I've got my ticket for May already and am looking forward to it immensely.

On that basis that belief is deluded you can include anyone who goes to any church or has any belief system.

The POPE is deluded that he is God's representative on Earth - and so are Billions of Catholics worldwide.

ICKE never mentioned the reptillian part of his conspiracy theory until later than Wogan.

He does not believe that the QUEEN is actually a reptile but has a reptillian bloodline.

I suggest you look at all the LEADERS of the UK Political Parties - all the ROYAL FAMILIES - those who control the banks - and the USA presidents. Even Boris Johnson and David Cameron. They are all related to each other - FACT. Just check it out.

What ICKE says is that the rulers of the World are all part of an inter-related bloodline which is reptillian in origin. Well - he has produced the evidence for this. In addition I suggest you do some research into the "Reptillian Brain" which is scientifically recognised.

Now where I disagree with ICKE is that this allows people of this bloodline to shapeshift. There are some who claim to have seen this - but not good enough evidence for me.

But it is indisputable that the LEADERS OF THE WORLD - and NWO are inter-related by bloodline. That they protect those bloodlines.

So I cant see why that belief of ICKE is deluded. Can you explain whether or not you disagree that all these people are related ? ( Google CAMERON and the QUEEN and BUSH and the QUEEN etc etc - look at BURKE's PEERAGE )

BR wrote:
In addition I suggest you do some research into the "Reptillian Brain" which is scientifically recognised.


scientifically recognised by who? and where?

please provide a source.

robbiex wrote:
How can you take anything this man says seriously, after declaring that he is the "Son of God" and saying that the Royal family were all lizards.

Ahh, show some charity - he was only 50% wrong !

It's not unusual for those in loftier positions to be related in some distant way. All the European monarchies are related, and it follows that their offspring through the generations would have had the better education and access to the better positions.

So far as anyone knows, Gordon Brown is not related to the monarchy in any way and it's he, not Cameron, who is in power at the moment. Obama doesn't appear to be related to the Queen either. Bush is no longer in office.

There are far fewer related people in power across Europe than there were 200 years ago, due to the collapse of some regimes and the spread of democracy. People who come up with these conspiracy theories need to update themselves.

I suppose if you believe in some of the evolution claims, we all have reptillian blood from way back. Apart from that, there is no genuine evidence whatsoever of the Queen being in any way reptillian.

David - use google. Here is the first few entries on google - the "reptilian brain" is a a descriptor of part of the human brain. As you know the brain is divided into two hemispheres. Gray's is a good place to start or even Wiki.

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but how does this relate to David Icke's ramblings?

david wrote:
BR wrote:
In addition I suggest you do some research into the "Reptillian Brain" which is scientifically recognised.


scientifically recognised by who? and where?

please provide a source.

BR, your reply was to cite as "scientifically recognised" sources "an acclaimed psychic", a Reiki "healer" and a guy who specialises in marketing. And you expect this to be in some way convincing?

David has asked you very politely to provide a recognised scientific {ie not a new age whacko} source. I would equally politely request the same. Just give me one piece of real evidence that the Queen 's DNA sequence is in any way inhuman.

Incidentally your "they're all related" claim cuts no ice because although Cameron might in some way be distantly related to the Queen the same could also be said of Mr AD Bromfield, a greengrocer from Smethwick. A man who, it must be admitted, has had absolutely no impact of world affairs in any meaningful kind of way.

To understand the full explanation you would have to read his books.

But from what I can gather - the human race is probably a hybrid type of genetic creation. Interbred with what the Old Testament call the Annuki.

This gives us part reptillian characteristics - hence the brain area.

ICKE believes that the "Rulers of the World" are interbreeding bloodlines who maintain more of the genetic material from the "reptillian" annuki bloodline. Hence they can trace back their ancestry to King David - and the ruling elite of the World basically rule via puppets like Blair and Obama and Cameron - who are their "relatives" but with from a weaker genetic pool.

It is similar to the Aryan belief that Hitler once had. We allow our Royal Family to actually follow their "selection" through. We also allow our Political Parties to select their leaders on this basis.......

You really need to read all the research and stuff written about this. It is fairly complex.

The "shapeshifting" part of the theory ( and it is just a theory ) is that those who have very pure genetic material are able to dimenionsally shift. Now obviously this is moving the theory into what you and me would call a spirit world area.......and for evidence - it will be sparse because they only do it in front of each other supposedly. So we will never know !!! The jury is out.

It is an interesting theory - and one that can stand up to scrutiny until you add in the shapeshifting. Which is where many dont agree with ICKE that this is possible.

I have not got a clue. I think it is unlikely - but there again if you told someone in 1066 that his body was made of cells and atoms he would not have believed you unless you had the tech of the 20th century to prove it.

I won't have my Queen called a reptile !!

but I do believe this 'bloodline' business has relevence.

As far as most of Europe's Royal Families go-of course they are all related. That's why they have to bring in the ocassional commoner like Princess Mary from Tasmania who will one day be Queen of Denmark (from far enough away so the genes aren't related).Looking at her gormless husband you can almost see the relief on the rest of the familes faces.

But Royal families everywhere are just figure heads aren't they ? ( except Thailand where the King is so revered his has ultimate power but rarely exercises it)

They're there to do the 'establishment's' bidding. I remember a wonderful interview with the great Tony Benn where he said the 'establishment' would do away with the British Royal Family at a moment's notice if need be.

And remember-Prince Philip always says.."we can be packed and gone in 40 minutes..no need to put us against a wall and shoot us " ( I just love Philip !)

But reading Icke's essays on some things does raise concerns. Take Barack Obama. How does a man like him rise from no-where in such a short time to become president of the USA?.

And his biggest backers are from Wall Street that just brought us the biggest financial calamity of all time!

I doubt his policy of universal health care will ever get implemented-and as for his plans to make the USA the leader in alternative energies-I'll believe it if it ever happens.

Ah, so what we're really talking about here is nepotism. IF that's the case why not just say so? You don't need to be part lizard to look after your rellies, believe me.

OK - this is where you ARE wrong Veritas. They are not figureheads.

The UK Royal Family OWNS most of the UK - and in fact are the World's biggest landowners.

Take a county like Herefordshire - Prince Charles is the biggest landowner in the County.

Though they pretend to be figureheads in reality they have more influence and power.

People in their bloodlines like the ROTHSCHILD FAMILY and the ROCKEFELLER family - once you put together say the leading 20 families of the World financially you will find that they are the power brokers of the World.

I agree that supporting your family is important - but continueing to interbreed is certainly not. Just go back through history and you will see that "BLUE BLOOD" is essential for marriages.

The day William or Harry marry a girl from a local comprehensive who has no bloodline link to them will be the day when I believe that the "reptillian theory" is not true ! Also when we have a Prime Minister who has not gone to a top school with Lords and Ladies. For instance BORIS is related to the Queen - so is CAMERON. Blair and Brown went to top private schools as did many others.

This is not a class issue as some would have you believe - it has to do with breeding !!!

nepotism is exactly what happens and is very difficult to prevent it.

And nepotism by nature advances the same frame of thinking-the same power structure.

David Icke sensationalises it but it isn't hard to see it historically.

Just look at the Bush family..from great grandfather who organised a failed coup against FDR-to grandfather who financed Hitler and held his wealth in a NY bank but avoided charges-to George Snr to George Jnr.

The only time the USA was free of real fascism was from the beginning of FDR's New Deal that saw the rise of a huge middle class by transfering welfare from corporations to individuals that really built and spread wealth throughout the USA until the 70's-from then on it was again dismantled via every president since whether Repub or Dem-transfering welfare back again to corporations (the definition of fascism).

The 'establishment' never gives up and rises and stumbles and rises again. Indeed-it's very reptilian.