www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206643...ife-No-10-grand.html

I have always had an inkling that Blair and Cherie were a couple for the cameras and that TONE's real interest was either Mandy or Gordie.

This article subtly suggests that in the nicest possible way.

This GEFFEN chap seems to be at the centre of lot of meetings these days as well !! ( See Tip Sheet for discussion ) Had no idea he was a Gay Rights Campaigner as well.

I am not great at being able to read people's sexuality - but Tony told the POPE that he did not agree with his holiness's view on Homosexuality ! which is quite a big thing considering he could have just kept his mouth closed and not mention it. So obviously it is a subject close to his heart.

Well BR, here are my exclusive revelations...

www.kingofhits.co.uk/content/view/798/37/

Beautifully bitchy and typical Mail piece by the way, heavily laden with In-Yer-End-OH!

what a load of old b*****ks

who would care anyway?

Just because a PM has gay ministers doesn't mean he fancies them.

Sometimes I do wish the Daily Male would grow up
a bit.

Is Blair gay?..I reckon he's like one of those people I've met many times..mentally gay but not physically so. They always seem to have a strong wife and are attracted to strong gay personalities-like Mandy or Geffen.

Geffen has been a Hollywood heavyweight for years and supported mainly left-wing causes. I'm surprised he's friendly with Blair as he was definitely anti the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Just because Blair hangs around with Geffen doesn't really indicate he's gay. Even though Geffen is famous for taking some people on fabulous shopping sprees, like Keannu Reeves who is, err, still a bachelor.

I'm amazed that Blair is still attractive to so many people.I don't know how he lives with himself-I truly believes he has a part of his mind that must be able to shut out the horrors he is responsible for-unlike Bush who is just outright evil and can see no wrong in what he has done. But there was also a bizarre homo-erotic relationship between these 2 men as well..yet Blair is obviously intelligent and Bush the opposite.

But JK is right-this is the Daily Mail at it's most tawdry and shocking best which makes it the most enjoyable tabloid of all and why I can't go for the week without the International Mail that is a weekly compilation of all these shocking pieces:woohoo:

Interesting stuff JK and Veritas.

Strange that Blair and Geffen are such good friends if Geffen was against the Iraq War so vocally. Does not add up.

I always wondered why Cliff Richard and Blair seemed to be so close that he turned over his homes to the Blair family. Though I think Cliff feels safer in male company I have met many who have worked with him who have said he is a bit of a ladies man. In addition after embarking on an Iraq killling spree I cant see Cliff ( who is a 3rd world champion ) as a Christian being in favour of killing for any reason.

I also find BLAIR's religous fervour quite weird as well - to suddenly move to the Catholic Church shows that he does not have any core values. Setting up a Foundation for Inter Faith work after never mentioning God whilst in power is also a very strange thing to do.

The Catholic Church seems to have more Gay employees than any other organisation outside of Broadway or West End musicals - so perhaps that is BLAIR's interest.......

as for Keanu.....always thought he was 100% not gay ! whatever next !!!

but why would it matter if all these people were gay?

does that fact alone make them a conspiracy?

I am gay- oops

No, I think it just adds an interesting ingredient (and allows the homophobic old Mail to imply imply hint hint hiss hiss)

"....I have met many who have worked with him who have said he is a bit of a ladies man...

as for Keanu.....always thought he was 100% not gay ! whatever next !!!"


ahhh ,the pure innocence of some !

Thanks for that Veritas !!!

I think that anyone who is gay should "come out" and talk about it. Rather than pretend otherwise.

Of course if people believe their sexuality is private then who am I to "out" anyone.

But if as a media personality your life is a lie in any way - it is a real shame.

I think we have accepted "lies" and "Theatre" in the media for too long as being acceptable. Sexuality may well have been used as a weapon ? against certain people.....but with Mandy and Alan Duncan being high profile and the Owner of BMI Baby - and many in the music and theatre industry - it surely is not now unacceptable to reveal the truths about yourself.

I realise that all of us are complex human beings - and things may not even be black or white in many people's minds ( Bowie and Elton have travelled that road ) but to live a lie must be very difficult.

and David why not discuss being Gay on here ? I think openess destroys homophobia. Truth always trumps cover ups or lies and inuendos.

anyone should be able to come out but we live in a very commercial world and when big money is at stake in Hollywood or the entertainment industry, it isn't as easy as it seems.

Although Rupert Everett is about the first actor to openly say he was gay he was given such a hard time when he was young and building a career it really damaged him badly and that's why he had to move to Europe and work a quite a few films and series that were never shown in the UK or USA , just to survive.

And who was to blame?...the tabloids of course. Everett had a series of handbag girlfriends...a common Hollywood practice but the innuendo and cheap shots the tabloids took at him endlessly really made it difficult for him to work properly.

Anyway...a bit of mystery is much more interesting.

But it's pleasing to see that politicians and entertainers can be openly gay today..never forget there are tens of thousands of young kids out there isolated in small communities that still have to hide their sexuality.In a way-the internet has probably been a lifesaver for them

Rupert Everett. Information source IMDB. I quote.
"Date of birth
29 May 1959, Burnham Deepdale, Norfolk, England, UK"
Last time I checked, "Norfolk, England, UK" was a part of Europe.
Does it matter if anyone is gay? Well yes, it does, actually. It matters very much to the person whose sexuality is being made the subject of prurience or prejudice. In short it's private, therefore not a subject for speculation. Nobody else's bloody business. The person may be "in the public domain". The person may be "in the public eye". In no way does that make them public property and their sexuality should be a matter for them and them alone. This is a courtesy which should be extended to everyone. Even Tony Blair.
Sorry BR, but this thread has only one purpose and that is to insinuate that Blair is gay therefore a viable target for ridicule. I quote your own words;

"and David why not discuss being Gay on here ? I think openess destroys homophobia. Truth always trumps cover ups or lies and inuendos."

But that doesn't stack up with the mocking tone you adopt while making a snap suggestion as to why he has many gay friends. And youy are not "discussing being gay" {not, I suspect, that you are in any way qualified to offer informed comment on the subject}, you are discussing the possibility of Blair being gay. A long way off being the same thing.
I repeat, it's nobody else's business. Not even yours.

I think it's not so much secret homophobia but two faced hypocrisy though of course the Mail is a basically homophobic paper as I implied (Mail-like) in my In-Yer-End-Oh post.

who was it a few years back who insinuated that Blair's cabinet was dominated by a "gay mafia"- Littlejohn, I seem to remember.

So I suppose previously, when there were no gay people in positions of influence, the same people were shouting that government was dominated by a "straight mafia"? Of course they weren't.

It is vitally important to know whether Blair is gay or not.

He has presided over the removal of ALL privacy of individual citizens of the UK. Yet he seems to believe that his beliefs and values are secret.

Whilst we now have to fill in forms of up to 100 pages each giving the most intimate information ( I suggest you go and look at these ) Blair himself does not have any transparancy.

I want to know WHY he is a Catholic - Why he bombed Iraq - whether his judgement is effected by his sexuality ( One way of the other )

I dont think that is not important. Remember our current society has been cast by Blair more than any modern politiician.

We know about all his pre-decessors in Downing Street as well.

People who lie in their private life invariably lie in their public life. He wishes to be President of the EU - therefore I believe it is important.

In these days of PRIDE marches and legislation against homophobia then I dont see it as a problem for him. In addition I dont ridicule people for being gay ? many of my close friends are gay and I see them the same way as I see any other person. However, in terms of honesty none of my friends has a problem with admitting their sexuality.

Finally, as an aside in the early 80s I had the privelege of seeing Rupert Everett in ANOTHER COUNTRY which was a stunning play with a stunning cast. Anyone else see that West End production ?

hang on, since when has the fact that Blair has gay friends meant that he might be gay?

And even if he were (I see no proof whatsoever), it is nobody's business. Nobody is obliged to bare their love lives in public.

I think also that calling Peter Madelson "Mandy" is a thinly veiled way of mocking him for his sexuality. I don't really believe it's just a convenient way of shortening his name.

Again, no proof whatsoever that Blair may be gay, but then again when has proof ever got in the way of a "good story".

but then is even a good story.

yawn.

Harry Potter is a bender too. Yawn.

Blair is a tosser because he's a tosser. His sexuality has nothing to do with that. I know a few people who are gay who prefer to keep it quiet because they have real reasons to do so. I don't suspect that any of them have psychotic tendencies consequent to their desire to keep under their hats something which is none of anybody else's business.
You pose a red herring in place of legitimate argument. Which, after all, is nothing new. Very few of your arguments carry any real weight. So why I'm surprised that you think he might have bombed Baghdad because he's secretly gay is probably more my fault than yours.

well I think the article cited at the top of this thread is crap journalism at its crappiest, pure innuendo.

if someone wants to be taken seriously, they should quote better journalism

We have already seen today that MANDY has jumped into the DOWNLOADING debate following his "Holiday" with GEFFEN who is a advocate of tough laws on downloading.

Not conincidence.

Basicallly I apply the same rule to STRAIGHT people. If they are sleeping around and giving favours on the back of their desires. John Major - Edwina Currie : the whole thing is appalling. Prescott and his Secretaries - and so on and so on.

I am not expecting Politicians not to have a sex life. But they should not present themselves fraudulantly.

If BLAIR is gay - then I think it is appalling that he has used his family to hide that fact. I know that used to happen in the 1950s but it will set back anyone taking Gay Rights by 50 years if eventually it leaks out that he has lied ( which no doubt it will in the future if true )

I read the Daily Mail article and I have to say that my gut feeling is that he is gay - and I have always thought he was gay. That article just confirmed what I thought.

I think it is important that we know. Why has no political commentator asked him ? has there even been a book about him which has asked this question ?

I want to know. If he has lied in his "presentation" of his private life then he is not fit for public office in 2009.